Aavas Financiers Limited

Quarter ended Jun 2026

2026-07-21 Transcript PDF
Moderator

Thank you so much. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin with the question-and- answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may click on the raise hand icon from the participants tab on your screen. We request participants to restrict each to two questions and then return to the queue for more questions. To rejoin the queue, you may click on the raise hand icon again. We will wait for a few minutes until the question queue assembles. We will take a first question from Prashant Poddar of ADIA. Prashant, you can unmute your microphone and go ahead, please.

Hi, everyone. Manu, quickly, if you can help us understand two things, one on competitive environment in the two or three categories of loans that you participate in any geographical and if you can share a heat map also in terms of competitive environment and therefore its impact on potential profitability outlook or margin outlook or spread outlook on the business for the full year. Second question is how much of if at all any if you expect spread compression how much of that can be addressed by operating leverage? Yes, these are my two questions.

Manu Singh

Thanks Prashant. I think I will answer both the questions together. First on the question of competitive environment, I do think that we are witnessing healthy competition across geographies. Yes, there is pressure on spreads. As I look for the complete year, I do believe that spread compression from the existing point will take spread to go sub- 5%. However, I am clear on the operating levers that we have put into action are showing results in Q1 and the ROE and ROA outlook remain stable. There are enough and more opportunities to lever on the cost-to-income side, more so on the income side. And hence, we are acutely focused on productivity per resource and revenue per resource being driven day in and day out at each of our 440 branches. Reasonably confident to make sure that the ROE and ROA that we have planned for the year remains where it is, even if slight compression does take place on the competitive environment. More so, Prashant, I am heavily focused on regaining our market share in the HL segment, which is the primary aim of the HFC. Doubling down on that business will have a little bit of impact on NIM, but we are confident of making sure that we cover it up through both cost measures as well as improved operating levers on the income side.

Moderator

We are now moving to our next participant. We have Renish Bhuva of ICICI Securities. Renish, please unmute and go ahead with your question.

ICICI Securities

Congrats, Manu, on a good set of numbers. Just two things, first on this repayment rates, right? So, historically, our repayment rate has always been around 16 -17% which has gone up to more than 19% in the last two quarters. So just wanted to check, is it due to some change in product mix in a sense we are doing more of a shorter -term loan-like LAP, which is basically resulting in higher repayment rate, or is there something else because the BT out rate has also come down this quarter. So, I am just wondering why the repayment rate on sequential basis is so sticky.

Manu Singh

Yes, Renish. We did see a small uptick in the early part of the fiscal opening, which is April and early May, in specific segments, especially interest rates upwards of 14%, small ticket. But as we close the quarter in the month of June, it has rallied bac k to its usual trend. I do not expect this to continue. Parallelly, we are focused on improving our AUMs as I mentioned in my opening comments. The speed at which we are filling our leaking bucket is increasing across our branches. So, regarding your question of BT out, I do not see any specific trend which is alarming. It has tapered down in June, and I expect it to be normal. Yes, part pre-payments did see some uptick, but that was more in the early part of the month, not in June.

ICICI Securities

Got it. And secondly, on disbursement run rate, right? So obviously, this quarter, we close at Rs. 1600 crs plus, which is basically highest, in first quarter. So how should one look at this trajectory over next nine months and if you can share the June month disbursement number will be helpful?

Manu Singh

So, in the next nine months, yes, we were very conscious of making sure that the early part of the year, which is Q1, gets us onto the right footing on run rate. For two reasons, we are now heavily oriented towards P&L. And the more that you upfront your business, the more earnings you have in the entire part of the year. That has been the guiding force across the businesses. Secondly, June numbers are upwards of Rs. 600 crs. For the next nine months, we are committed to delivering our yearly commitment of 22% to 23% top line growth and that remains steadfast on disbursement and that moves to about 17%-18% on AUM. Renish, could you hear me?

ICICI Securities

Yes, I missed one part. So, you said 22-23% top line growth and 17-18% AUM growth. Is that correct?

Manu Singh

The disbursement growth, yes, 22-23% and 17-18% on AUM, yes.

ICICI Securities

17 to 18% of AUM. Okay, that is it from my side. In fact, I have a couple of more, but maybe I will come back in queue. Thank you, Manu and best of luck.

Moderator

We are moving to our next participant. We have Shreepal Doshi of Equi rus. Shreepal, please go ahead.

Shreepal Doshi

Congrats on a decent number and thank you for giving me the opportunity. My question was on the asset quality trends and so basically, there is some inch up, but I think that is because of seasonality. However, are we seeing any trends in any specific geography which is, let us say, a little more alarming or showing signs of stress? And have you taken any additional measures on underwriting side given the macros as well as uncertainty on the rain as well? So, any caution or any measures taken on these two, because of these two events?

Manu Singh

To answer your first question, No. We continue to see healthy trends on both lead and lag indicators. Absolutely no geographical customer segment stress coming in. Having said that, we are very cautious about the fact of keeping our collections under complete control. Towards the same, in the early part of February, proactively the teams have made certain policy changes looking at the macro environment, certain segments, which would be affected by both the ongoing West Asia Conflict as well as the ensuing expectation of shortfall of rainfall. We are also constantly looking at indicators across industries. For example, tractor growth, tractor sales have shown a rebound after a long period of time. All in all, all our eyes are on the rearview mirror as well as looking at what is happening around the industry today. We are very confident of keeping our guidance on our credit quality to where it is.

Shreepal Doshi

Got it. Sir, could you just double click on the changes that you were talking about at ground level teams as well as on the underwriting side?

Manu Singh

This is largely, mainly focused on segments that we would have, we see could be impacted which is tours and travels, restaurants, more so from the crisis in the Middle East and the fuel crisis.

Shreepal Doshi

Got it. And then have you seen any, let us say, trends on rejection rates increasing in any category? Maybe it could be salaried or self-employed or any geography?

Manu Singh

I would not call any visible trend out to suggest change in our customer segment or our approach. Our business is about looking at risk which is assessed at a branch level. That is continuously fortified on a monthly basis with training, outlook, lead indi cators of bounce, such that nothing creeps into the system to come up as a shock.

Moderator

We are taking our next question from Raghav Garg of Ambit Capital. Raghav, please go ahead.

Ambit Capital

Thanks for the opportunity and good evening. I have a couple of questions. One, so when you guide for 20% sustainable AUM growth, what kind of disbursements per branch are you budgeting for that? I am sure you have done the math. I think right now you are at Rs.15.5 crs of disbursements per year. So, when you guide for 20% AUM growth, what is that disbursement per branch that you are building into that? That is my first question.

Manu Singh

Raghav, I think I would like to be factually correct on your understanding and my understanding. The current year’s guidance is 17-18% AUM growth, 20% is the medium- term guidance.

Ambit Capital

Sure Sir. So, when you guide for the medium term, what is that disbursement per branch that you are budgeting for?

Manu Singh

Today, when we look at branches, it is a cumulative factor of small branches, large branches. I look at when I drive teams together. We look at productivity per resource deployed on the field. So, there could be large branches, small branches, there from an average of about Rs. 8-10 lakhs productivity per resource, we are looking at doubling this to at least Rs. 20 to 22 lakhs per resource deployed on the field.

Ambit Capital

By resource, you mean employee, right?

Manu Singh

Yes.

Ambit Capital

Okay. So, essentially, you are saying, per employee, you are going to double the disbursements, right?

Manu Singh

Yes.

Ambit Capital

That is essentially what you are saying. And say over a period of three years, is that understanding, correct?

Manu Singh

I would shorten it to two years

Ambit Capital

Yes. Understood. Second question is, I also hear from you about increasing your market share in home loans. Now, when I look at home loan disbursal growth on a two -year CAGR basis that has been about 5% and then when I look at that number, in terms of home loan files, that is just 1%. So, what exactly do you plan to do to regain your home loan market share, from, say, a two -year CAGR of about 1% in volumes 5% in overall disbursements value to say a higher number? What are the steps that you are taking on the ground to do that?

Manu Singh

Two things. First, the necessity of looking at this number arises from the fact that over the last year, year -and-a-half, we would have graduated towards NHL. I want to be absolutely comfortable on both on-boarding business metrics between HL and NHL, to tend towards what the portfolio is, which is roughly 65-35. So that is the strategic reason why the focus on home loans. Next, when we are focused on going behind a particular segment, both tactically as well as orienting resources at every branch towards targeted customer acquisition. These have been rolled out at a branch level, resource level on who is expected to furnish what and from where, to be able to measure, monitor and hence manage this change of doubling down for the next 9 to 12 months on getting more focused on HL customer acquisition.

Ambit Capital

Should it also weigh on your yields because HL has lower yields versus a LAP? So maybe, what you are expecting over the next one year, the yield compression could be more, maybe from the second or third year onwards because HL mix will increase.

Manu Singh

As I mentioned earlier, yes, this is a conscious choice. It is a more competitive business. However, sourcing mechanisms of moving back to our main strength of doing direct business, making sure that branches are equipped with resources to go out and do that business which comes at a much lower cost of acquisition, better quality, and levers to work on the income side at every transaction, in my opinion, is reasonable enough to counterbalance the small compression that we may see on being more healthier. If you look at our quarter one to quarter one numbers, this trend is already visible with 17% volume growth in HL in this quarter versus last year.

Ambit Capital

But last year was impacted, right? In terms of business, that is why I was referring to two year CAGR because last comparison of Y-o-Y may not be appropriate.

Manu Singh

I am only substantiating that point by saying that strategically we are aligned. When we know that we want to get healthier and fitter, the compensation of that small spread compression, we are cognizant in our everyday operating mechanics of getting bette r income from every transaction that we make and there are enough and more opportunities.

Moderator

Thank you, Raghav. We are taking the next question from Rajiv Mehta of Yes Securities. Rajiv, please go ahead.

YES Securities

So sorry if I have missed something because I have joined the call a little late, but I just wanted to understand the context behind the recent PLR cut in June when the cost of funds actually firming up. And just wanted to check, on a reported basis, I think you have already taken that in the reported yield and spread because we report on contractual basis, right? While the whole P&L impact of it will flow in Q2. Is this understanding, correct?

Manu Singh

I will take the first question and possibly I would want to understand the second question a little more. On the PLR, we have adopted PLR derivation mechanics with detailed operating guidelines, which includes external as well as internal factors and that formula being true to the reflection of what both external as well as internal dynamics suggest, goes through a route of ALCO discussion and is transparent in its conversion, whether it moves up or it moves down. And hence, as you ask the question, I feel very delighted that we stand testament to the fact that even if the external world feels or believes that cost of borrowing is going up, and my own mechanism within ALCO mentions that it has to go down, we are transparent and clear about maintaining it in both letter as well as spirit. That is on the PLR. May I request a little more detail on your second question, please?

YES Securities

Yes, I was saying, what we reported the yield and spread, as of June in the presentation, that is already post the PLR cut, right? Because you report on a contractual basis.

Manu Singh

Yes, correct.

YES Securities

Got it. So, disbursement yield versus the portfolio yield after the latest PLR cut. What is the difference, what is the gap left?, because we have also been working on upping the disbursement yield to its risk -adjusted pricing, so that has been going up quarter -on- quarter and now because of the two back to back PLR cut, the portfolio yield would have come down, so what is the gap left?

Manu Singh

It is almost equal to, when I know that a left pocket is being hit, the attempt is always to make sure that the right pocket compensates for it. So, they are largely reading in tandem.

YES Securities

Okay, so they have come very close to each other.

Manu Singh

Yes.

YES Securities

Okay. And spread outlook for the year? I mean, given that you have done whatever you had to do on the yield side, and the markets will decide the funding cost. Are we still looking for a slightly softer spread in the remaining part of the year?

Manu Singh

Yes, I do think it will fall a tad below 5%. I mentioned in the early part of the conversation that we are already on our way to make sure that our operating engines churn out both cost reduction and income support to maintain our ROA and ROE guidelines.

YES Securities

Got that, sir. Thank you so much for answering my questions and best of luck.

Manu Singh

Thank You.

Moderator

Thank you, Rajiv. We are moving to our next participant. We are taking a follow -up question right now from Renish Bhuva of ICICI. Renish, you can go ahead with your follow-up question.

ICICI Securities

Yes, just one thing, one clarification on this recent RBI circular on the asset classification, specifically on these repossessed assets for NPL. Have you guys assessed anything internally on this?

Manu Singh

Renish, currently this is under evaluation, and we will ensure that if any change must be made, we will make it happen

Moderator

Thank you, Renish. We are moving to our next participant. We have Shivam Saria of Antique Stock Broking Limited. Shivam, please go ahead.

Shivam Saria

I wanted a data point. So, I wanted to understand what is our yield on builder loans is , which is mainly a non -retail book and wanted to understand what are the kind of borrowers you have? That is, it.

Rakesh Shinde

Shivam, we do not do any builder loan kind of product. And we do have an NHL, LAP or MSME and the difference between HL to NHL, there is anything between 150 to 200 - basis point difference is there, but we do not have any builder loan as such.

Shivam Saria

Okay. All right. Thank you. Moderator All right. Thank you, Shivam. Any more questions from any participants, please click on the raise hand icon. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, we will take that as the last question. And I now hand it over back to the management for closing remarks. Over to you, management.

Manu Singh

Ladies and gentlemen, as we conclude today's earnings call, I would like to sincerely thank all of you for your time, continued engagement and support. We really value it. The progress we have made reflects the dedication of our team, the trust of our customers, and the confidence of our shareholders and lending partners. Q1FY27 has been an encouraging start to the year. We are beginning to see a faster, fitter and more execution focused organization. Looking ahead, we remain optimistic about the opportunities before us. With a clear focus on customer acquisition, productivity increase, disciplined growth, prudent risk management and superior asset quality, we believe Aavas is well positioned to accelerate growth and create sustainable long-term value. Thank you once again for your continued trust and partnership. We would also like to thank and place on record the support and guidance we receive from our regulator, NHB. We remain committed to executing with discipline, delivering consistent long - term value, and look forward to sharing our progress with you in the quarters ahead. Should you have any further questions or require additional information, please feel free to reach out to Rakesh Shinde, our Head of Investor Relations. Thank you and have a pleasant evening.

Moderator

Thank you so much. On behalf of Aavas Financiers Limited, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for joining us and you can now click on the leave icon to exit the meeting. Thank you all for your participation.