Adani Enterprises Limited

FY2024 Q2

Speaker

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question -and-answer session. If you have a question, please press * and 1 on your telephone keypad and wait for your turn to ask the question. If you would like to withdraw your request, you may do so by pressing * and 1 again. Ladies and gentlemen, if you have any questions, please press * and 1 on your telephone keypad. We will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. First question comes from Bharat Jain from ICICI Securities. Pleas e go ahead. My first question is on solar. Sir, what is the capacity of solar manufacturing? And is the 4GW operating?

Robbie Singh

Yes. And the current capacity is approximately 4.5GW.

ICICI Securities

And how much have we exported during the quarter? We can give you overall the target export numbers for module sales. The exports, in terms of megawatt, we exported 792 MW worth of modules in these both quarters. Adani Enterprises 5 02.11.2023

ICICI Securities

Okay, sir. What geographies are we exporting?

Robbie Singh

Mostly US.

ICICI Securities

And on wind, what is the plan for wind manufacturing capacity? Wiil it be majorly used for captive?

Robbie Singh

No, it will also be available for export as well, but initially majority for captive consumption. Starting capacity will be 1.5 GW.

ICICI Securities

Okay. Sir, are we planning to produce 2 MW, 3 MW turbines?

Robbie Singh

That will depend. But initially, we'll focus on the 5 MW, but we'll have the capacity to produce 3 MW as well.

ICICI Securities

Can you give us the total CapEx on the three data centers? Yes. So, the data center business, approximately we expect to have about $0.5 billion about INR 4,390-odd crores. And this is broadly in line with our earlier guidance given earlier in the year, the next year and year after that also continues around similar ones. Adani Enterprises 6 02.11.2023 Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you have any questions, please press * and 1 on your telephone keypad. I repeat, ladies and gentlemen, if you have any questions, please press * and 1 on your telephone keypad. Next question comes from Nirav Shah from GeeCee Holdings. Please go ahead. Hi, good evening, sir. Thanks for the opportunity. Sir, in the mining business, I'm seeing that we have removed the Bailadila mine from the iron ore service contract. While that mine had always had problems, but. So, is it officially now off contract?

Vinay Prakash

Yes. So, Bailadila is officially out of our list now. We are not going ahead with that contract.

Nirav Shah

Got it. And on the solar module sales, I mean, on the margins front we have done phenomenally well. And congratulations on that. You've done some 33% margins. But at the same time, our realizations are largely flattish on a per megawatt basis. So, I'm assuming that we would have benefited from the falling module prices. Can you just shed some light on that?

Robbie Singh

Yes. That's true. Although, for overall growth, it benefits contractually, but we expect the margins to be retained. But overall, because our sales, once they stabilize and the full production stabilizes, only a certain basic percentage will be sold. It's not like sales will continue to grow because our capacity initially will be 4.5GW.

Nirav Shah

Okay. And our export mix was almost 2/3 during the quarter. So , when this mix changes again or normalizes, we still expect the margins to hold on to the current levels? The export margins will hold. The non-export margins will be, depending upon the underlying contract and the buyer, the other margins will be different from the export margins. Adani Enterprises 7 02.11.2023

Nirav Shah

Got it. On the Australian operations, if you can just share the EBITDA numbers for this quarter and first - half.

Saurabh Shah

So, Nirav, the EBITDA numbers for commercial mining are already there in the segment results. If you can just look at it, the PBIT numbers are already there. On EBITDA number, we can give you on a separate call.

Nirav Shah

That is fine. Perfect. And lastly on the MDO guidance, I mean, if you can just sh ed any light, because on what are we expecting to do this year?

Vinay Prakash

So, MDO, we should be closer to 35 to 37 million ton this year.

Moderator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you have any questions, please press * and 1 on your telephone keypad. I repeat, ladies and gentlemen, if you have any questions, please press * and 1 on your telephone keypad. Next question comes from Pratik Kumar from Jefferies. Please go ahead. Yeah, good evening, sir. Congrats for good results and commissioning of new facilities and new energy ecosystem. My first question is on solar segment. So, till the point we are not exporting and till the point we are not commissioning green hydrogen plants, this quarterly run rate of solar modules can go to how much, like 1GW quarterly with the number which is 630MW in this quarter? Can it like sort of continue to move up with better exports or higher domestic sales as well?

Robbie Singh

That number will continue to move up in line with the utilization rate of the underlying plan t. But I think the bigger thing there is that, we don't want to convey an unrealistic assumption in the market that the sales, in the longer term the sales are a bigger objective here. So, in the longer term, it is the objective that we have in the medium term is to build the integrated hydrogen ecosystem. And, what this highlights though, Pratik, in the meantime, is that , as green hydrogen ecosystem is modular as we are doing as a Adani Enterprises 8 02.11.2023 business case, each stage it is cash flow positive. And therefore, this excess cash flow will continue to be deployed into the green hydrogen ecosystem. It just shows you the overall strategy that we have adopted of each individual module of the green hydrogen ecosystem being profitable in its own right. So, nothing is subsidizing anything. And I think that's a bigger message here that, as we add the green electron module of the green hydrogen, it will itself also be profitable. Then as we add the hydrogen electrolyzer chain, it itself will be profitable. As we then add the green hydrogen, green product chain, which is ammonia, methanol, and urea, that itse lf will be profitable. And what this highlights that the profitability of each module adding up to an extremely competitive hydrogen price, which will compete effectively with the import cost of LNG in India.

Pratik Kumar

Right. Now looking at commissioning pilot plant, it's still like FY27, right? So that was the last message.

Robbie Singh

Yes, FY27. We are on schedule, pre-engineering work at the site and all of that is going on at site; geotech studies and everything is going on.

Pratik Kumar

Okay. And, I mean, obviously, it is like still 2-2.5 years away. So, from next quarter, we should also expect like sale from wind unit and the polysilicon unit?

Robbie Singh

Absolutely.

Pratik Kumar

And what could be the margins in this segment? We'll come to that , once the sales strategy of the turbines are established in terms of pure domestic, global, we'll update the numbers towards as part of our annual results. Adani Enterprises 9 02.11.2023

Pratik Kumar

Okay. And regarding some of the new projects which you're looking at , like copper and coal -to-PVC. So, what is the stage of these projects at this point? We're looking for a financial closure for coal-to-PVC.

Robbie Singh

Financial closure of coal-to-PVC will be in this financial year. And then, copper is on schedule to be completed in the first calendar quarter next year, so, last quarter of this financial year as scheduled. So, there's no change in any of that.

Pratik Kumar

Okay. And one question on your segmental bookkeeping question. What is the road segment EBITDA for the quarter?

Robbie Singh

EBITDA we will give you. Segment results are there on the road. Half-year ended is INR 530 crores PBIT.

Pratik Kumar

Right. Sure. So , I'll take it offline. And what is the full -year guidance for the coal trading volumes now? We've seen like some decline obviously in line with the market trends. But what is the full -year guidance for the coal trading volumes, FY24?

Vinay Prakash

Yes. It all depends on whatever requirement comes but considering that we are going at the 18 million to 20 million per quarter, should be somewhere between 70 million to 80 million. But again, considering we’re in a service industry, it all depends on how the demand and supply , d emand comes out of our customers.

Pratik Kumar

And the MDO guidance that you gave was more like production guidance, right? Not dispatch guidance? Adani Enterprises 10 02.11.2023

Vinay Prakash

So, in MDO, whatever is the production mostly it gets dispatched, because our inventory on first day of financial year and the end of the financial year always remains plus or minus 0.1 million here and there. Because these all are long -term contracts, signed by owners for their own mine itself. So , they lift everything which we mine.

Moderator

Thank you. We have a follow-up question from Bharat Jain from ICICI Securities. Please go ahead.

ICICI Securities

Can you tell us about the status of the Navi Mumbai airport?

Robbie Singh

Yes. It's almost, just about 40 % to 45% complete, on schedule to be completed last quarter, calendar quarter 2024, as advised in the annual result meet, AGM. So, it’s going exactly as per schedule.

ICICI Securities

Understood. And then, what is the CapEx incurred on the six airports in H1?

Robbie Singh

Total CapEx, that year to date total CapEx that we have incurred on the airports is approximately, say, about INR 5,350 crore for all eight airports.

ICICI Securities

Okay, sir. And what could be a target for H2? It's currently in the middle of the schedule. So, we don't want to give. Overall, our target about INR 11,000 crore CapEx. Adani Enterprises 11 02.11.2023 Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you have any questions, please press * and 1 on your telephone keypad. I repeat, ladies and gentlemen, if you have any questions, please press * and 1 and your telephone keypad. There are no further questions. Now I hand over the floor to management for closing comments.

Robbie Singh

I just want to thank ICICI Securities for the call and for the questions. If anything else is there, you can please reach out to Manan for any clarifications . The detailed presentation is uploaded on the website already. So, that should be available, it will have a lot more detail as well. So once again, thank you everyone. And if there's anything further, please reach out to Manan.

Moderator

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