Adani Power Limited analyst Q&A

Thank you very much. The first question is from the line of Puneet Gulati from HSBC. Please go ahead.

Yes, so thank you so much and congratulations on good numbers. My question is on a new capacity. Can you talk about how much existing capacity you already have which is not tied up with PPA, and what is the plan for new capacity commissioning in terms of timeline, which is without a PPA?

The current operating capacity is 15.25 GW, and as Mr. Dilip Jha mentioned, we are currently executing 1.6 gigawatt capacity at Mahan is good to get commissioned by FY 27-28.

Does it have any PPA for this 1.6?

Yes, it has a PPA for close to 83% of the total capacity of 1.6 GW. Now, another plan which CFO spoke about is Raigarh brownfield expansion, where, as he also mentioned briefly in his speech, some DISCOMs have invited bids for PPAs and some more will come. . I am sure when our plan finally fructifies, more bids for PPAs will come and we will wait for that , and if at all we are not successful bidder s, as you know, the open and merchant spot market has been very strong, and we can go for either of the two options that is the spot market, merchant market, or we can tie those capacities also in the short-term or medium-term PPAs.

But what would be your preference, a long -term PPA or a medium -term PPA?

We will keep a balance, but largely it has to be a long-term PPA.

Okay. And just following up on this, if I may, NTPC, for example, already has some old signed PPAs which it will revive, and Coal India also is not talking about new thermal plants. Do you think there is enough demand for a non-Coal India, non-NTPC kind of DISCOMs who will sign PPAs? Is there enough demand for thermal sites?

Absolutely. Mr. Jha spoke about the thermal capacity to go up to 80 -85 gigawatts and I think there is enough scope for the absorption of the capacity which will get added.

Understood. That’s helpful. Thank you so much.

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Nikhil from Bernstein. Please go ahead.

Hi. Thank you for taking my question. Firstly good set of numbers, good to see that. In terms of merchant capacity expansion, it seems like an excellent strategy for the coming few years. But beyond that, do you see a risk of limited offtake as batteries pick up, pump storage comes online and excess solar generation is there in the afternoon?

We are not going so aggressively. Currently, we know that there are some bids for PPAs that are being invited and we are in the state of preparedness. It's not that the entire capacity that we'll be building will remain merchant. So, we'll go step by step, we'll have clarity and then we'll go further on that, but as we speak right now besides Mahan , where a PPA is already in place for 83% of the capacity, for Raigarh, , we are looking at the opportunities and we'll try to tie up the capacity under long term PPAs. But for some reason it doesn't happen , as CFO mentioned in his speech, we have options to go in the open market as well as medium term markets.

Got it. The second question I had was good to see the realization in the merchant market above INR6 for the Jan to March quarter, but when you look at the price in the power exchange for Jan to March they were quite a bit lower than that. Would it be fair to assume that a bulk of the sale in the merchant or the short term market happens through bilateral agreements rather than the exchange? And is it a similar expectation for the April to June quarter as well?

As far as Q4 is concerned, yes, your assumption is right, but in future we'll have to see.

Got it. That's helpful. And the third question I had was regarding the inorganic opportunities that you were referring to Coastal Energen and Lanco Amarkantak, would the company be looking to explore other big ones like KSK Mahanadi etc as well if the process for them moves ahead?

Yes we do keep evaluating the various opportunities which are coming in the market and the basis of our analysis and the price at which they are available, we'll go for them, but nothing specific about any project. The opportunities come we evaluate and then take a call whether to go for them or not.

Thank you. Those were my questions.

Yes thank you.

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Akhilesh Bhandari from Millennium Capital. Please go ahead.

Hi, sir. Thank you for taking my question. So, firstly on the fuel cost. So, the average fuel cost per unit in this period was 3.33 per unit. Considering the current spot prices as well as the inventory which you already have at the plant, is there a scope for further reduction as compared to this level or is it expected to broadly remain the same?

See, we have three sources of coal, actually. One is under the long -term FSAs what we have against the PPAs. Secondly, e -auctions and third is imported fuel. These are the three sources. So, as far as FSAs, long-term FSAs are concerned in fact that price is driven by CIL and once in a few years they do have an escalation, but we don't see any steep increase in that. Auction coal depends on basically demand and supply and as far as imported coal is concerned we have seen the prices softening up in the last 15 months or so. And we believe that it will eventually settle at $90, $100 per ton. So, we don't expect any further significant reduction in this. And for a substantial part of our PPAs we have a coal cost pass - through. So, to some extent, it does not really affect us in case there is any movement in the fuel price.

Yes, I was just trying to understand from the merchant profitability standpoint. So, secondly, what about the prior period revenue?

Let me further add as far as merchant goes , most of our plants are near the pithead. So, we have a substantial saving in transportation cost and that gives us a good advantage.

Got it. Sir, from looking at the prior period revenue so how much of the prior period revenue which we have booked till now, how much of that has already – the cash is already coming from the DISCOMs? How much is left? And is there any matter which has bee n referred to the higher authorities or everything is now done?

As far as FY23 -24 is concerned , the one -time amount that was recognized is INR9,322 crores. And over a period of time whatever amount has been recognized in the books of accounts has by and large been realized and we don't expect any large amount further to be received or to be recognized in the books of accounts. There are a few issues which are currently under various regulatory forums, but I don't see that affecting us significantly.

But the cash is already being received that would be a fair assessment?

Yes we don't have any large amount outstanding from any of the DISCOMs in terms of the any past regulatory receivables.

And sir sorry if I missed this if you had mentioned this earlier, but currently what is the capacity quantum which is not tied up on the long- term PPA and if you can give some color on the short -term contracts which you have, which are already ongoing for the next maybe couple of quarters or for the summer quarter?

We don't generally share this information because we look at this basis the entire integrated revenue model. And some of it has been already given in the PPT which was uploaded on the website. Open capacity now that is untied, is about 2.1 GW.

Most likely in this month itself.

Okay understood. Thank you. That were my questions.

Thank you. Next question is from the line of Nikhil Abhyankar from ICICI Securities. Please go ahead.

So sir we have witnessed a new - so we just had a new tariff order in FY24. So, are there any benefits in terms of cost savings? And if there are any then what is the quantum of it?

Which tariff order are you talking about?

So, the tariff order, the CERC tariff order?

Nikhil, Nishit here, are you talking about the five-year period tariff order? So, that actually is the order for the tariff control period. And what was your question regarding that.

So, are there any opportunities for increased cost savings as per the new regulations and if there are any what is the quantum of it? If you have any estimate?

No, there are no such any implication.

Nikhil, we only have the Udupi PPA with Karnataka which is 1080 megawatts that is under section 62 to which this applies and there we are still actually in the previous tariff control period. The true-up related work is yet to be done and after that the current tariff period implication will start.

And sir you mentioned about your capacity targets of around 24 gigawatts. So, what is the timeline for this target?

See, this has two components , organic and inorganic both. As far as inorganic growth is concerned as you know , NCLT approval maybe coming in some time for Coastal and Amarkantak , where - we have already got the LOI and we are expecting the NCLT order soon. So, these are already within this number. And the Brownfield expansion at Raigarh which is currently we just started working on it and Mahan phase two where the implementation only started about three months back. Such expansion will take about three and a half years to four years or so and accordingly we will reach this capacity.

Okay. And the Mahan 2 what will be the total capex for this project?

Mahan Phase-II’s total capex is INR13,500 crores.

And so, all the ordering for this plant is done?

Yes major packages have been ordered, including BTG with BHEL.

And sir you mentioned that the Godda receivables are substantially reduced after the stabilization, so if you can mention the exact actual numbers?

Yes, the outstanding range is just over three and a half or four months, i.e. close to about four months, and the current outstanding which is due is about close to around USD400 million or so. And in fact happy to inform you that in last two months, we have received substantial amount and the receivables have come down significantly now. In this month alone, we have received USD136 million as against our monthly billing of USD90 million.

33 we have received against the billing of 90 or 19?

No, on an average monthly billing is about USD90 million And this month alone we have received about USD136 million and the inflow has gained momentum now because initially they had to set up certain processes and other procedures and take necessary appro vals. Now that SOP is in place, going forward we do not expect this amount to further pile up.

Thank you. And I will get back in the queue.

Yes. Thank you.

Yes. Thank you so much. My question is on this new PPA tie-up that you have done with Reliance. How should one think about the economics of the same? Is it a fixed ROE kind of project for you or is there a room to make higher margins in certain circumstances? Can you talk about it?

Let it get operational. Let it get started by end of the month. In Q1 we should give you the complete details about it.

Okay. Thanks.

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Bhavya Gandhi from Iwealth. Please go ahead.

Yes. Hi, sir. Congrats for a good set of numbers. One data point I was just requiring that. What is our capex plan for FGD in the current year?

See, the FGD order s for all capacities have been placed now and the timeline to complete this is December ’26. Depending upon the requirement of the EPC contractor, the funds will be released. Also, it is very important that we have a full clarity about the cost recovery. We are all ready to implement the projects. Capex requirement will be as per the progress made by the EPC contractor and in terms of our contract with them, they are required to execute the entire order by June 26 or Q2 of FY26-27.

And, sir, any ballpark capex for one megawatt? Is there any ballpark number to it?

It depends and varies from project to project. It has a huge range actually. So, it will be misleading if I say INR60 lakh per megawatt or INR30 lakh per megawatt or INR1 .1 crore, per megawatt. It depends on project to project.

Okay. Thank you and all the best, sir.

Thank you.

Thank you.

As there are no further questions I would now like to hand the conference over to management for closing comments.

Yes. Thank you for the questions and interest in the company. Before we close, I would like to highlight one point. In the print media and on the net one thing what has been reported is that our profit for the last quarter, i.e. Q4 this year as compared to the previous year has come down by about 47% which is actually not fully correct, and needs to be explained because if you look at the profit before tax for Q4 FY23 we had a profit of INR898 crores as against profit before tax for Q4 FY24 which was Rs. 3,558 crore, clocking a growth of 296%. Now, the profit for this year is on a steady state, but last year in Q4 of FY23 because of the effect of amalgamation of six subsidies with Adani Power Limited, there were certain provisions which got reversed , and that was to the tune of INR4,325 crores. So, in Q4 FY23 the profit before tax of INR898 crores went further up after reversal of these provisions to INR5,242 crores which is not a cash item but it was only a book entry, required because of the effect of the merger. So, this point, I thought I must drive home that number of the profit number of this year is very high, but because of only the one -time adjustment of INR4,345 crores the net profit of Q4 FY23 looked higher. So, I thought I will take this opportunity to clarify this and in case you have any further doubts about it, any clarification if you want we are happy to answer. Thank you so much for your interest and we look forward to speaking to you, interacting with you in Q1 next year. Thank you so very much.

Thank you. On behalf of ICICI Securities that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us and you may now disconnect your lines.