Adani Power Limited

FY2025 Q2

2024-10-28 Transcript PDF
Moderator

Thank you very much. The first question is from the line of Nikhil Abhyankar from UTI Mutual Funds. Please go ahead.

UTI Mutual Funds

Thank you, sir. My first question is regarding the receivables at Godda. Can you quantify what are the receivables as of September 30?

Dilip Jha

As of September 30, 2024, our receivable s are INR 6,630 crores or USD 790 million. This is the amount of receivables outstanding as on 30th September.

UTI Mutual Funds

How much have we received in the last six months?

Dilip Jha

In the last six months, we have received almost USD 350 million.

UTI Mutual Funds

Okay. And sir we understand that the Godda plant is not connected to the domestic grid. Are we looking to link it to the domestic grid in the medium term?

Nishit Dave

We will explore options. As of now, power supply is being provided to Bangladesh. We are very much in touch with the grid operators over there. We are in sync with the Bangladesh grid, and we are supplying power according to their demand. We are also receiving payments from them. So as of now, we hope that there will be no further deterioration in terms of the outstandings and as of now, we don't think that we need to look at that option, but if required, we can consider it.

UTI Mutual Funds

And the second question is regarding Coastal Energen we acquired it in Q2, and we are holding 49%. So do we look to increase the stake over here and also there is an under -construction capacity of around 1,200 MW. Are we looking to commission that under-construction capacity as well and if you can give us some guidance on the capex as well?

Nishit Dave

Actually, there is no under -construction capacity in the case of Coastal. It was actually in Lanco Amarkantak where they were adding 1,320 MW, 2 x 660 MW.

UTI Mutual Funds

So, over here, there is no capacity addition plan in Coastal?

Dilip Jha

Yes, no capacity addition plan in Coastal as of now.

Dilip Jha

Yes, Lanco, as we have said that 1320 MW is under construction and this capacity expansion will be over and above the existing operational capacity of 600 MW.

UTI Mutual Funds

Okay. And sir what will be the timelines for the commissioning of this additional capacity?

Dilip Jha

We are expecting that in the next two years, it will be ready.

UTI Mutual Funds

And, sir, Reliance has taken a stake in Mahan-1, and I guess Mahan-2 as well. So, what are the exact details? How much have they tied up and how much have they paid for their 26% stake?

Nishit Dave

This is from Mahan Phase-1 and the total percentage if you will ask, so this is almost 5.6% of equity. In terms of its megawatt capacity, it will be out of Unit -1, of which it will work out to 26%.

Dilip Jha

Yes, correct.

UTI Mutual Funds

And sir final question, what were the merchant volumes in Q2 and average realizations?

Dilip Jha

So, merchant volume we sold this time is 4,886 million units. And the realization is almost INR 6 per unit.

Nishit Dave

So, one thing I'd like to clarify, Nikhil, is when we say merchant, it's not entirely only in the power exchanges. We sell about two-thirds to 80% of the power under short-term bilateral contracts where the buyers are typically various DISCOMs. So, you will see that the tariffs that we realize are generally higher than the average rates you've seen on the power exchange.

UTI Mutual Funds

Sure. That's all from my side, sir. Thank you and all the best.

Abhinav Nalawade

Yes, sir thank you for the opportunity. So, continuing on one of the questions that Nikhil asked, can you throw that light on timelines for all the upcoming projects?

Dilip Jha

Yes, so we are in the process of several expansions and this are the organic expansions that we are executing. So, let's take Mahan Phase 2. This is in full swing, and we are expecting that it will be operational by December ‘26 and June ‘27. For the rest of the projects, the developmental steps are going on, like in Raipur, Raigarh, Kawai, Mahan, and the new site, Mirzapur. These projecs have already started ordering. Preparatory work in Raipur and Raigarh has started, and for the rest of the projects, it is yet to start. But one thing is that for all the units, we have given orders for the supply of BTG to BHEL.

Abhinav Nalawade

So, I was asking what is the timeline for the Rajasthan bidding, and any other bidding is going to come up anytime soon?

Dilip Jha

I think on the latest news that on the Rajasthan bidding for PPA, I think they are reconsidering this bidding, and if any new development comes up, we will definitely update.

Nishit Dave

They have withdrawn the bid temporarily. Probably, we will see the bid will be refloated soon with some changed conditions.

Abhinav Nalawade

One last question. What is the overall amount with the Bangladesh PPA, and what is the receivable period as of today?

Dilip Jha

As I already said, the receivable is USD 790 million, and in Rupee term, this is Rs. 6,630 Crores. In last six months, we have received almost USD 350 million from them. In October itself, we have received USD 86 million. The payment has already increased significantly after this turmoil in that country. In September, we received almost USD 55-60 million. And then in October, we have already received USD 86 million. The payments are geared up significantly after that turmoil in that country.

Moderator

The next question is from the line of Nirav Shah from GeeCee Investments.

Geecee Investments

Yes. Good afternoon, sir. Just one question. Sir, what’s the reason for the increase in the capital work in progress? I mean, it is now above INR 9,000 crores. So, there is an increase of that much amount in the first half. If you can just explain that please, that would be great.

Nishit Dave

Yes. So, actually, Nirav, this increase is because we have acquired Lanco Amarkantak, which has a project under construction right now. And there is a difference between the acquisition value and the carrying value of the capital work in progress, and we believe that when we complete the project, actually the overall project cost would be comparable to the current cost of setting up a similar capacity. So, on that basis, we have recognized on one side a capital reserve and on the other capital work in progress. And similarly, it is also there in case of coastal Energen. So, partially, some capital reserve has been recognized in that case also, and specifically in case of Lanco Amarkantak, the carrying value of the capital work in progress is reflected.

Geecee Investments

So, what is the capex outgo expected for this year and next year?

Dilip Jha

For this year, we are expecting that apart from the already concluded acquisitions, considering our own internal benchmark for further acquisitions as well as our ongoing project and further organic expansion, it will be near about INR 6,000 crores. And for next year, we are expecting that for the same projects, it will be around INR 20,000 crores. As of now, this is our estimation.

Geecee Investments

Got it, sir. Perfect. Thanks a lot, sir, and all the best.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Yash Agarwal from JM Financial. Please go ahead.

JM Financial

Yes. what is the EBITDA in the first month from the acquired entity that you have, posted in the second quarter? From Amarkantak, as well as Coastal Energen, what is the amount of EBITDA?

Nishit Dave

Yes, it's only one month for which we have done the accounting. So, it's not a very large number. Just wait, we’ll provide you.

Dilip Jha

For 1 month, this is not significant, but for the sake of giving the numbers, EBITDA for coastal, we have the number of negative INR (-) 35 crore for 1 month.

JM Financial

And for the other one, Amarkantak?

Dilip Jha

This is, then again, negative INR (-) 8 crores.

Nishit Dave

These are very small numbers. Yash, actually, these were companies that were under the control of the resolution professionals in the last few years. And now our job is to actually turn their fortunes around. So, we would be using our capabilities in plant operation and maintenance, in fuel manageme nt and logistics, and in power sales management to improve their efficiency, to improve their overall operating efficiency, financial efficiency, bring down their fuel costs and logistics costs also by optimizing their fuel procurement, actually, focusing a lot on their fuel logistics, because ultimately , we have found that there are avenues where we can make substantial improvements over there , and then managing their power sales.

Dilip Jha

Also, so what we are expecting that next year the EBITDA for Amarkantak, now called Korba Power Limited, it will be much more on improve ment path because we have a track record of parts acquisition, we will have our own system and processes there, we will do lots of efficiency improvements. So, you will see the tremendous change now after these assets are part of our fleet.

JM Financial

And what is the amount of debt which is consolidated on account of these two entities at the end of September?

Dilip Jha

So, we have paid INR 4,101 crores in the case of Lanco. And for Coastal, we have paid INR 3,336 crores on gross basis.

Nishit Dave

This is the acquisition cost that we have paid. Now, actually, we have taken some debt on the balance sheet of Korba Power. So, we have INR 1,800 crores of debt over there. The other amount that Mr. Jha quoted was actually paid from our accruals. So, the total addition of debt rather is only INR 1,800 crores.

JM Financial

And just to reconfirm, so you said that Bangladesh dues are about USD 750 million and USD 86 million you have received in October. Is that right?

Dilip Jha

Yes, correct.

Moderator

Thank you. As there are no further questions from the participants, I would now like to hand the conference over to the management for closing comments.

Dilip Jha

Thank you. Thanks a lot for your time and looking forward to connecting with you again for our Quarter 3 earnings. Thanks a lot. Happy Diwali to all of you.

Moderator

On behalf of ICICI Securities and Adani Power Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us and you may now disconnect your lines.