Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin with the question -and-answer session. The first question is from the line of Navin Sahadeo from ICICI Securities. Please go ahead.
FY2027 Q1
Yes, good evening, sir. Thank you for the opportunity and indeed congratulations for a good set of numbers. My first question is about Jaypee. And again, congratulations for bagging the deal. It was on our mind for a long time, and finally, we got it. My question is, INR2,850 crores is the price for the asset, and there is 100 million ton limestone. So, regarding this limestone, I wanted to understand if we have the entire land required to access this 100 million ton in control? If not, what is the land that will be required and approximate cost? Or the company has a backup plan that since your mine, as you mentioned in the presentation, is very in close proximity to this existing, we cannot really bother about, you know, buying that land, if at all, the prices tend to shoot up? If you could ju st help us understand this bit -on limestone reserves and costs associated with it.
So, I think, Navin, it's a mix of both. Number one, yes, we have reserves in the vicinity, and I think it is not a great botheration for us. Having said that , what lands already exist with the Jaypee assets are enough for the initial few years, and land procurement to keep securing your reserves is a part of the process in any plant that we run. So, I think it's a continuous activity. We are good to go in the initial few years. We have an adjacent asset already available, and then, we'll keep expanding the land to augment this further.
But any ballpark number that so much cost because if you just want to understand the total, let's say, cost to t his Jaypee acquisition, will it be additional like, you know, to get this entire 100 million ton, will it be additional INR100 crores, INR500 crores, INR1,000 crores any ballpark number there?
No, I don't think we can indicate an exact numb er, Navin, right now. We are in the process of assessing this. And for any practical purposes, this will happen gradually. So, this is not like a onetime hit that's going to come and hit you. So, I think it's an ongoing process.
Sure. My second question then was about like the clinker and cement capacity kind of a mismatch in the Eastern region and now, it's more so in the Northeast because we have surplus clinker there, but not much grinding. I believe the existing East also is the situat ion, probably other way around, we have more grinding there, but less clinker. So how are we looking to utilize or make optimal utilization of the Northeast clinker plant that we commissioned, I think, a quarter or 2 back? So, are there more grinding units that are coming up in West Bengal or Bihar? How should one look at utilization of that asset? Thanks.
So for the Northeast assets, I think our commentary consistently has been that we believe in the potential of that geography. We have in vested ahead of time in clinker and grinding. Yes, we have a little excess clinker available in that place.
In our journey to reach our Pan-India story and expansion, setting up a grinding unit somewhere near that clinker unit is on the table. We have not yet announced that exact project, so I can't detail it beyond this. But I think balancing the clinker from Northeast and setting up some additional grinding is there on the agenda.
I have more questions, but I'll come back in queue. Thank you.
Thank you.
The next question is from the line of Amit Murarka from Axis Capital. Please go ahead.
Hi, thanks for the opportunity. So, the first question is on this exceptional expense that you've highlighted of INR177 crores. I was just wondering like on an asset acquisition value of INR2,850 crores, it seems at 7% of the acquisition cost. So just wanted to understand this better that how much of this was stamp duty? And what really were the other expenses that have been booked out?
Amit, I think it's been a couple of months since we have entered this transaction. There is a lot of activity that is going on in terms of assessing the right stamp duty amount and other incidental cost. We have taken a provisional conservative number. This is a preliminary assessment that we have done so far. I don't think this exact number will be the final number. I think give us a couple of months. Anyhow, we have to do this entire registration in next 2 months. So, I think by the end of next quarter, we'll have more clarity on this. But I can just say that this is a provisional conservative number. We should end up being a little better than this.
Got it. Sure. And also, could you just give some guidan ce on the ramp-up of the Central India assets? What utilization you are looking in Q3, Q4 or broadly FY28?
I would just say that as Puneet ji mentioned, and we've also given it out in our investor deck, in the first 20 days, we got the first grinding unit up and running. Then, we started the trial run at Rewa clinker unit. So it's a topic that we are attending to with utmost urgency. Having said that, I think we will give it some time for it to stand on its leg, and we will be able to give a little more realistic estimates once we have taken a complete control of the asset in the market and might be we are hopeful that we'll be touching decent capacity utilization in a few quarters, but no guidance as of now.
Got it, sure. And a last question, if I may put in. So what's the expectation on cost now given that like we have a good sense of the pet coke pricing and all, like what is the outlook for Q2 and then forward?
Q2, 10 days prior to today, I think we were more clear on which way the Q2 is going to sort of pan out. But now, we again are in very turbulent times. Again, I can give you an estimate that
we're looking at roughly INR70, INR80 increase in terms of input cost. I would say the tail impact that was s upposed to come and hit us in Q2 over and above Q1. But as things are evolving, we will have to reasscertain this number. So let us see how this pans out for us and for the industry.
And just to be clear, this is excluding negative operating leverage, right, we see in Q2?
No, I'm just telling you the macro headwinds. Negative operating leverage is a part and parcel of business seasonality will come and hit us. So that's a separate discussion.
Sure. Thanks a lot. I'll come back in the queue.
The next question is from the line of Kunal Shah from DAM Capital. Please go ahead.
Yes, sir. So, first, on the Jaypee ramp-up bit, I understand it's a bit early. But could you just explain or give us some insight on what would be the quantum of volumes we would have done in FY26 to the existing, I mean, to the potential markets of Jaypee from our existing plants? Like is the network still active? And can it be sort of capitalized to ramp up Jaypee?
Sorry, Kunal, what was the second part of the question?
No. What I'm trying to understand is how much volumes would we be selling to the potential markets of Jaypee, let's say, MP, UP, from our existing plants in East? if you could just help like during FY26, what would be the quantum of it? And if the network over there is still active, sort of can we capitalize it to ramp up the Jaypee quickly?
So, the answer to your second question is a definite yes. I think we have been very consciously kept investing in that market. So, we have a decent presence in terms of network and brand. And the answer to your first question is that I would rather not give exact numbers of how much we sold in Central market from East. So yes, that's it.
Understood. Second, sir, also, company would be adding almost 40% capacity increase. That will be the quantum within like 1.5 years. And along with like a potential turnaround of the Eastern market, how to think of volume growth outlo ok over the next 2 years? Like could you provide any guidance over there?
Kunal, we really believe the industry per se would grow 7% to 8%. I think for our organic numbers, we should be in line with the industry. We are chasing more, but at least in line with the industry. And so the additional capacities, as we ramp that up, I think that should give additional volume. So I think we can put two and two together on that one. I can just tell you that, as we said, Jaypee, we are deeply entrenched in the market so that we get a head start, Belgaum, Kadapa, when the capacities come in. Again, these are markets that we know like back of our hands. So, for us to ramp up should not be an issue. So we are hopeful
that we'll be delivering decent growth, both organically and also with the additional capacity that we are bringing online.
Understood. And lastly, just one bookkeeping. In terms of our 9% volume growth during the quarter, how would this be faring versus our operating market growt h? If you could just give some bit of...
Faring versus...
Our operating market, like East and South and Northeast, what would be the blended growth in those markets and versus that our 9%, like how does that fare?
So Kunal, early days, not all results are out. Our gut says that we would be at least 200 to 250 bps higher than the industry. But I think once the numbers are out for everyone, we can understand this better.
The next question is from the line of Shravan Shah from Dolat Capital. Please go ahead.
Thank you. Sir, just to get more sense in terms of the capacity. So obviously, with the Jaypee and the ongoing expansions, we will be close to 67 million tons by Q3 FY28. So one, obviously, we have mentioned that Northeast, we will be adding up. A broad idea, let's say, even if we announce now also, by FY28, and can we add 2 million to 3 million tons there? And second, previously, we were looking to reach a 75-odd million ton by FY28. So particularly the Jaisalmer 6 million tons. So will that now be in FY29 that one can look at? I understand we will be announcing, but broadly, it will not be coming in FY28. That is kind of a clear that way one can look at?
I think the way I would see this is that the path is clear. The date, the milestone is definitely something we're looking at, but it's an indicative milestone. At 67, we are very clearly on that path. East grinding unit, as we mentioned, as you also mentioned, should take us in the vicinity of 70 soon. Whether it happens in the last quarter of '28 or first half of '29, it doesn't change the game too much. And as you would appreciate, Shravan, we are right now in the midst of executing roughly capex including if I were to see Jaypee because we are stabilizing Jaypee. So, we are handling 116 million to 17 million tons as we speak. So, we have to be careful how many fronts we open. I think once we have this settled, give us a couple of quarters, you might end up hearing more announcement from us. But if the way we see it, the journey to be a Pan -India player by FY31 in roughly 110 million-odd tons, that path is clear. So a few quarters here and there actually don't make too much of a distance on this.
Okay. So even if, let's say, 70 -- 67 and even if I add 2, 3 million tons Northeast, 70 million by FY28, then in next 4 years: '29, '30, '31, in 3 years, we need to kind of add 40 million tons. Do
we still kind of want to achieve 110 million tons by FY31 because given that to achieve that we need to do a significant capex, and then obviously, the net debt will also significantly rise. So are we also kind of thinking that even we'll not mind it to reach by even FY34, '35 also? So or still we're sticking that by FY31, we want to reach 110 million tons?
I think I've already said in many of my earnings calls earlier that this is a directional number. But depending upon how the industry is going, we can calibrate our speed, we can dial it up or dial it down. So like a couple of years here or there doesn't matter. Broadly, the direction is Pan-India, and the direction is going to be 110 million to 130 million tons. So I think let us see how the industry evolves. Let us see how the macro situation is. And I think based on that, we will remain flexible. We have said this earlier also, and we are saying this now also. So let us take the example of 75. Our earlier target was financial year '27. And now, we are going to get close to it in financial year '28. So okay, we are 1 year behind schedule. Heavens are not going to fall. So I would just say that we will be disciplined about our capital allocation. We will be very focused on our strategy, and we will focus on growth, which is financially accretive.
And making sure that our balance sheets are healthy. So we will not burst the bank, of course.
Sir, that's what the feedback I also wanted to give. So the more we delay would be better. Yes, I know, I'm just completing the sentence, you listen. So that's what the feedback is. So we should be looking at the balance sheet. We should not be minding in terms of delaying. The focus should be to keep on increasing the existing assets utilization and keep on improving the balance sheet. So that's the feedback I just wanted to give.
Rest assured, we will be cognizant of that.
Thank you sir. The next question is from the line of Siddharth Mehrotra from Kotak Securities. Please go ahead.
Sir, just wanted to clarify, this INR3,200 crores to INR3,400 crores number, that is excluding Jaypee, right? It does not include Jaypee?
Yes. Actually, I don't think the Jaypee capex would change this number significantly. It's anyhow a INR200 crores range. And we will be in the vicinity of this number, ev en including the Jaypee capex because even if we start executing the project, the cash flows will not happen immediately. So you can pick up the same number, including Jaypee also. But definitely, this is not with the bulk INR2,850 crore s. So that is on to p of it. But all the efficiency start-up capex is a part of INR3,400 crores.
Okay. Understood. Sir, I just wanted to clarify, in the slide we gave to investors when we first announced this deal, we noted a number of around INR550-odd crores, including refurbishment
and efficiency. So now that you're almost a couple of months away from when you gave out that number, is our estimate materially different?
No, they're not materially different, but it is still a WIP thing for us, Siddharth. So, this will phase out gradually, but I don't think there are a lot of nuances and anyhow the plant that we run, it is an evolving thing for us, but I can tell you this INR550 crores is the initial thing on the table. Let us give ourselves a few quarters to execute this. And then, we'll keep adding as and when the needs arise.
Understood, sir. And sir, we had also highlighted that we can grow our capacities there by around 2 million ton odd number. So any sort of ballpark estimate on the timelines where we actually think about expanding capacity in these acquired assets?
Again, Siddharth, very early in the day. Give us some time, let us get a little more acclimatized with where we are. That is pretty much o n the agenda, but that will happen sequentially. We can't jump the gun on day 1.
Understood, sir. Sir, secondly, I just noticed that in our slides, we were slightly pushed forward the start-up of our Pune plant. So is that with a view to balance our balance sheet situation? Or are we sort of running delayed on the operational side of things in terms of execution?
We had some teething troubles on the execution start point, and that is the reason. So Pune is not something that we have done for balancing our balance sheet right now. It's a new place for us. I think it took us a little more time to sort out certain issues, but I think we are back on track.
Got it, sir. And sir, for this entire year, do we expect to grow in line with the industry, around 7%, 8%? Or now that we have Jaypee assets, would we be more optimistic of a slightly higher number?
I think I'll maintain my position. Outside of acquisitions or new capacities, we want to gr ow in line with the industry. We actually want to do more, but you can take a guidance in line with the industry. And whatever we add as capacity, either by acquisitions or new projects, that should be on top of it.
Understood, sir. Sir, if I could just squeeze one last question...
Mr. Mehrotra, I'm sorry to interrupt you, sir. I will request to kindly rejoin the queue. We'll take the next question from Pinakin from HSBC.
Thank you very much. So my question is on cement prices. We have seen after some time, East India price increases going through and sustaining, but they still remain well below other regions in Pan-India. So in your view, you being a large player in Eastern India, what will it take for this price gap to narrow? I mean, given what's happened in Bengal recently, can we expect the price gap to narrow this year? Or is it more like the next 2 to 3 years where pricing gap between East and other regions can narrow?
Again, we don't have an answer that what will it take to make the prices stick. I think it's a very dynamic part of the industry, and I think you know this as good as I know it. So, we are hopeful good sense will prevail and better prices can happen but let us see how it pans out. We have no other take on this topic. What we can tell you is that as a brand, we work on premiumization as a topic. So whether it is premium products or whether it is premium pricing, that is an agenda that we very strongly chase. What happens to market price is something for all of us to see together.
Thank you very much.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Satyadeep Jain from AMBIT Capital.
Hi, thank you. Just on Jaypee, follow-up to one of your questions on, when you were doing the tolling arrangement, you obviously built some distribution network. And it's been a while, our channel check suggests that the volumes into the market were toned down significantly after the tolling period ended. So again, just following up, what kind of network you already have? And how long will it take maybe to rebuild or build on what you already had? And when do we look at profitability, absolute EBITDA profit from this plant? And tied to this would be that Jaypee also has another asset, which I believe is for bidding the other, Bhilai and Nigri and all. Is that something that is on the table for you also to evaluate the other set of assets at Jaypee?
So I'll answer your question in parts. Number one, I think I'm repeating myself, this is not a new market for us. We did stay invested in the market by continuously supplying and continuing our relationship with the channel and making sure the brand is there in the market. So I think for us to take a decent start should not be a major concern. There is still a lot of legwork that we have to do in the market because we have to multiply our numbers many fold. But we have good start point in terms of presence. Point number two, I think how much time it will take for us to get our EBITDA, I think we would allow ourselves as you would expect, we have taken the assets. We have got the fixed costs, and we have got the legacy issues, some legacy issues also, and we are still yet to ramp up volumes and sell. So initial period will be tricky. It should take us a couple of quarters to be EBITDA neutral, I would say. But I think we should be on track by the end of this year. And we will give us, I don't know, it might be, 7, 8 quarters for this asset to give EBITDA in line with the normal Dalmia EBITDA. And to your third point, can you repeat the last question? Sorry, I missed that.
Other assets, I think we are participating in the process. We will wait and see how it pans out.
The next question is from the line of Raashi from Citigroup.
Thank you. Just checking by when would you expect the Jaypee assets to coincide with Dalmia's organic EBITDA per ton?
Raashi, I just answered that. As I said, a couple of quarters for us to break even on EBITDA and might be 7, 8 quarters to deliver EBITDA per ton in line with the other states of Dalmia overall average. But again, as you would expect, early days for me to give a definite guidance. So we will see how this pans out. I can tell you that we are very strongly working to make sure that it gets online ASAP.
Got it. And on the overall cost for Dalmia, I think earlier you mentioned that you were targeting cost reduction on internal efficiencies to the tune of 50 to 100 per year. Is that still on track?
That is definitely on track. When we closed March quarter, Q4, we said that what we promised a couple of years ago, we have demonstrated that we have delivered. And now, it is a continuous activity. So I don't want to treat that as a guidance, but you can trust as we are working on that 24/7.
Just one last question I missed. What was the accrual incentive in this quarter?
I think we mentioned that number, INR45-odd crores.
Okay. And you received how much?
INR60 crores.
The next question is from the line of Sarthak Tita from DSP Asset Managers.
Hi, good evening. Thank you for the opportunity. I just have a small question on the cost side. So on the power and fuel cost on the presentation, we have highlighted that we were able to weather the storm and we contained the fuel inflation by around INR150 per ton. Does this imply or will this cost be coming in, in Q2? Should we think around that line or INR70 to INR80 that you highlighted will be the only uptick in power and fuel cost in second quarter? Just some clarity on that would be helpful.
So INR150 is something that we were able to avoid. And I think there is no reason for us to believe that this will come and hit us in Q2. I think this is a permanent change in the way of working that we were able to do. And that's also included some part as an opening inventory impact. Looking at Q2, as I said, 10 days ago, we were looking at 70, 80 -odd bucks Q2 over Q1. But now, with this evolving situation, we'll have to see how the story pans out. Right now, I would work with that number, but again, it's a very evolving place. So let us look out for that.
There is one more factor of cost. I think diesel increases happened towards the end of May. So last quarter only had 1 month with full diesel cost impact that there would be an impact for that. But packing cost was very high in quarter 1. That is improving in quarter 2, unless things go bad again. So all put together, I think somewhere in the range of INR70, INR75 is what you would expect, unless things turn drastically bad from where we are today.
Got it. Thank you, sir. One small question , I don't know if you mentioned it earlier, but any number of volumes that you can indicate in the ramp-up of the new acquired unit that we started in last 10 days? Will that be material or it will be very small in amount?
It definitely would be small. I don't know whether it will be very small, but I would not want to call out any numbers. I would again say, give us some time. And I think we can share more details as time passes by.
Yes, got it. Thanks so much. All the best. Thank you.
We'll take the next question from Pulkit Patni from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Sir, I just have a bookkeeping question. This exceptional item that you have booked, I just wanted to understand, since this is part of an acquisition, would it not be capitalized? Why has it been taken through the P&L, if you could help me understand that a little better.
Pulkit, when you acquire a business, normally, the accounting standards ask you to choose either the business combination method of accounting of acquisition or the asset purchase. So since this was a business purchase, it was a lumpsum amount for the whole lot of assets. So it qualifies as a business combination. So in busines s combination, you fair value the assets and account for, and then, of course, allocate to respective assets pro rata depending on the valuation report, purchase price allocation is done. But once this fair valuation has been done, stamp duty does not add any additional value to the asset so that this additional cost has to be charged off as per accounting standards. But for tax purposes, this will be, again, considered as a capital asset and depreciation will be claimed on that. Had we followed the asset purchase, had we purchased individual asset that this asset we are purchasing for this much value, then we would have gone. It would not have a slump sale purchase, it would have been asset purchase, then stamp duty would have been capitalized. So business combination, you have to expense off all these transition costs, which do not add value to asset which is already fair valued.
Thanks for that.
I have one question on like you have acquired like quite a few small assets like Murli, Kalyanpur, Northeast operations, Jaypee. How would you rate assets of Jaypee versus some of these assets in terms of ability to scale up EBITDA per ton in line with your company benchmark? And how is the pricing of central market for yourself versus your company average or like market average?
I think we have to look at it from 2 lenses. One is that the strategic aspect. I think it accelerates our entry into the central market, which we think is long term, a very attractive market, both from a market structure point of view, as well as a growth point of view. So that's point number one. Point number two, it gives us a lot of flexibility in doing brownfield and debottlenecking options. So, there is we can average our cost down further from here. These are the big positives that we see. And a lot of infrastructure is already here, like there is railway siding, there is colony, there's a lot of surplus land. So I think this is a very large asset in terms of its footprint and a lot of infra already exists here. So I think those are the positives. I think the negative here is that , this plant was shut for a long time, and it is a relatively older plant. So I think we have to put some money into bringing it down in terms of the efficiency, the cost curve. That is what we are ascertaining. But overall, I think Jaypee is known for building very good plants and technically excellent asset. We acquired Bokaro also from them in 2015, and I think it really delivered very well for us and I think our team was familiar with this asset because we've done tolling as well. So I think overall, we think strategically, we are quite well positioned. It is just a slightly higher cost plant because they have not done enough capex that they should have to bring it down the cost curve. And that is something we have to do some catch -up capex and efficiency capex to restart the plant and bring it down to the Dalmia efficiency curve. So overall, I think it ticks all the boxes in terms of what we think is strategically attractive and financially accretive.
Another question on pricing...
Mr. Kumar, I'm sorry, sir, you will have to rejoin the queue for follow-up.
No, this question was asked in the first question only.
Yes, what pricing?
I think we are pretty much buying it at not a very expensive valuation. We haven't paid a very high premium. It's like a close to replacement cost.
Your question was on...
Sir, the question was on market pricing, cement pricing.
So, the question was how is the pricing this season, your pricing versus your average pricing and your pricing versus central market's pricing?
I can just tell you I don't have that data off hand, but I can tell you that once we enter the market, we'll enter at the level our premium price positioning would be at par with the industry leaders. So I can tell you that. So there won't be any discounting as such in our pricing. How much does it compare versus our overall average? I don't have that number offhand.
Thank you.
The next question is from the line of Indrajit Agarwal from CLSA. I'm sorry, sir, your audio is not clear. Mr. Agarwal, I would request you to kindly use your handset.
Can you hear me now?
Sir, some disturbance, but you may try. Please use your handset while talking.
What is the price versus... : We can't hear.
Sir, it's not clear.
Do we have a brownfield expansion opportunity at Jaypee?
I think we answered that question. We called it out in our investor deck also when we acquired the asset. We definitely have brownfield expansion, and we also called out the numbers, but we are to yet to do a full assessment. So we will come -- sorry, sorry, sorry, brownfield, yes, so both brownfield and debottlenecking are there on the table. Debottlenecking, we mentioned about that in our earlier investor presentation. And brownfield also, as Puneetji mentioned, ther e are enough reserves, enough land. I think we should be able to look at it, but we'll be detailing as we go forward.
Sure. And on price exit versus quarter average?
Sorry?
The cement prices exit versus quarter average, how is it currently?
June exit versus quarter 1?
Yes.
I think most of the markets have held steady. Bengal has seen some suppression of prices but in July, in initial period, we have seen some uptick in South again. So it's a very, very evolving
space. We are not monitoring one date versus one average. Let us see how the quarter works for us.
Thank you.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Gaurav Nagori from Avendus Spark. Please go ahead.
Any update on the North region foray? And are we going to see the delay because of priority to ramp up the Jaypee assets? And also, are we looking to transport volumes from Central to North market because what we hear is a lot of activity on the logistics side in Rajasthan by Dalmia?
I don't think moving material from Central to Rajasthan or North market is on the table. That is definitely not on the table. And regarding your point rega rding expansion in North, I think Puneetji detailed out very, very clearly. Our stated aspiration is to be a pan-India player. We have given a milestone in terms of capacity and years. North is definitely going to be there on the table. But when it happens and when do we announce, I think that we will come back to you as we go along. We can't comment on that.
All right. Thank you.
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Jashandeep Singh Chadha from Nomura. Please go ahead.
Yes, hi. Thank you for the opportunity and congratulations on a good set of numbers. So, my question to you, Puneet, is over the FY '27-'28, as per you, what is the capacity that will be added in the Eastern region? And do you think the industry East industry is in the last leg of massive capacity addition? And Yatin, just on Jaypee, while you were calculating your internal IRRs and returns, what sort of even if you can give us an indicative number, what sort of utilization and EBITDA per ton you were working with? Just an indication will also work.
Your first question is how much capacity is getting added in East? Is that, Jash?
Yes, sir in '27, '28.
I think if we just put the numbers that we have in front of us, we are looking at 10 million to 11 million tons getting added in both the years industry-wide, but I think you can be a better judge of that than us. So we have a number of 10 to 11 in each year, '27 and '28. And regarding your second question, what number I was working on in terms of EBITDA and volume? I think, Jashandeep, we will have to I don't think I'll be very specific on that. I can just tell you that it's a very, very promising region.
We're looking at higher capacity utilization. And as I said, in 6 to 8 quarters, I'm looking at EBITDA turning at the current Dalmia normal average level. So I think you can put 2 and 2 together with that.
Right. And just one thing on capacity, do you think East beyond this will not see a massive capacity addition? Is the industry in the last leg of massive capacity addition that we are seeing for the last 5 years?
Jashandeep, I would not hazard a guess on that. What I'm very clear on is that East we have invested. Dalmia has invested a little ahead of time. We are very well entrenched. The markets are opening up. Every state, I think, offers a great promising opportunity in terms of demand. So, I think East is going to be a strong region for the industry and for us. So that's the way we see it. How much everyone else is adding and what is that number adding up to, I think the demand should be able to take care of the supply.
With the West Bengal elections also, I think there is...
Yes. I think every state looks to us as a very promising state in terms of potential demand.
Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll be taking the last question for today from Rajesh Ravi from HDFC Securities. Please go ahead.
Yes. Hi, sir. Good evening. Just on the other income...
Mr. Ravi, I'm sorry, sir, your audio is not clear. Please use your handset.
Better now?
Yes, it's much better. Please continue.
Sir, could you explain this mark-to-market, the income which is booked in the other income? Is it related to IEX? And if I recollect earlier, this was moving to other comprehensive income?
No. The IEX gain goes into other comprehensive income. Whatever is in other income is only for the treasury investments into mutual funds and bonds.
Okay. So, this would be fully volatile quarter?
This is because of the market yields. If you remember, quarter 4, the yields had gone up. So we had a mark-to-market losses at that time. Now, market yields corrected in this quarter after the policy announcement and because of the attraction of RBI's measures to attract global capital in the form of FPIs and ECBs. So the rates have come down. That is why the mark-to-market gains have come. So on average, you can assume that treasury yields will be close to about 6.5% to 7%, not more than that.
That is it from my end. Thank you.
Thank you. As that was the last question for today, I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Puneet Dalmia for closing comments. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Thank you very much. Again, we appreciate your interest in us, and thank you for the engagement, and thank you for the feedback. We are very excited by the acquisition and the greenfield build-out that we are doing. And I think in the next few quarters and over the next 2, 3 years, I think we have very exciting times ahead. Thank you for your interest. Take care. Have a great weekend. Bye.
Thank you, sir. Thank you, members of the management. On behalf of Dalmia Bharat Limited, that concludes this conference. We thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines. Thank you.