EID Parry India Limited

Quarter ended Mar 2026

2026-05-27 Transcript PDF
Moderator

Thank you very much. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. The first question is from the line of Gautam from Nalanda Securities. Please go ahead.

Gautam

Hi, thanks for taking my question. So, the first question is on the consumer goods business. So, now going ahead, what is the plan over there. So, we have the sweetener division and now you are focusing on some adjacencies. So, what would those products look like? And basically, when you say value added, what should we define the margin profile of those products as opposed to the rice and pulses that we were doing?

Muthiah Murugappan

So, Gautam, thanks for the question. So, going forward on the CPG side, the strategy is to have a stronger margin profile on the business model. I think as you indicated, some of the rice and pulses, etc. are pretty low margin products. And we have defocused to some extent. We are focusing on those products only in sort of few channels. But in terms of the margin accretive products and value-added products, they will be more on the browns line, which is jaggery, couple of variants of brown sugar, premium whites. So, this is all in the realm of sweeteners. And newer product launches also in the realm of sweet products which are being planned for later in the year. Lot of these value-added products move the business into the 30+% gross margin level. And this is really the intent in terms of how we want to move forward.

Gautam

Okay. And we were looking at some acquisition also, right? You had mentioned in the last call. So, has there been any progress made on that? And are we still looking at it or there is a shift in strategy for that also?

Muthiah Murugappan

So, Gautam, I think on the last call, we had sort of outlined that we will specify the sort of segments within the food FMCG space which we are going to be looking at. I think the investor presentation covers that. We are talking about ethnic snacking and culinary convenience. These are segments which we are looking at further. In terms of how to enter these segments, these are conversations which we are having as well. But these are the segments of focus which we look at beyond the sweet products and sweeteners as well.

Gautam

And secondly, on the Nutra division, so now how should we look at this division? So, there are two, three products that we are focusing on. So, what would be the scale-up strategy over there? And what would be the general margin profile of this business once everything stabilizes?

Muthiah Murugappan

So, Gautam, on the Nutra piece, Nutra India continues. There are no new product launches planned. We obviously have the algae processing and exports which we do. That will continue. I think they have had a reasonable performance and I think we will continue now with some of the tariff issues being settled. We will continue to progress that piece. I think there will be more action on the Valensa front where we have also communicated two product launches, one on the prostate side as well as one on the derma health side. So, this scale-up will happen in Valensa going forward. I think what we will see in Valensa is an expansion of top line. As well as a stronger bottom-line performance. As mentioned, we have reoriented the strategy a little bit. We have also had some organisation and management restructuring. A stronger operating team is in place right now and they are driving this mandate forward.

Gautam

Okay. And just one last question. So, just like how we have seen the West Asia crisis, post that, have you all seen any change on the ethanol division when you are interacting with some government bodies in terms of either improving the mandate from E20 or in terms of pricing also? Do you see anything positive happening this year?

Abdul Hakeem Ashiq

Good morning. This is Ashiq here. I head the sugar and biofuel division. Obviously, most of the news around this is in the public space. The good development has been the government sharing their intent through the BIS aspect for E30. We have been telling this for the last 4 to 5 quarters. We expect positive action from the government. It will become visible during the allocations that will come up in the new ethanol year. We remain strongly confident that a key positive outcome of the crisis will be higher ethanol blending levels, which will strengthen the country’s fuel security.

Gautam

Are there any talks you had on pricing revisions?

Abdul Hakeem Ashiq

Our last read of the situation was that there may not be too much action on pricing but there will be an action on increase in blending percentages.

Gautam

Okay. Thank you so much.

Moderator

Thank you. Next question is from the line of Rushabh from RBSA Investment Manager LLP. Please go ahead.

Rushabh

Post restructuring that has happened, I just want to understand for every Rs. 100 that operating cash that is generated. How do we allocate capital now across the existing segments? If you could just share some thoughts and where are you doubling down more? Also, is there any strategic investments left or are you looking to continue all the existing businesses?

Muthiah Murugappan

Rushabh, thanks for your question. Now we will post the restructuring at the refinery. I think we will be continuing with the existing sugar and biofuel operation, CPG as well as the Nutra operations. I think that is the plan. In terms of capital allocation, there will be a focus on the CPG segment. A lot of the investment there really goes into the A&SP program. There is no real CAPEX as such. The only CAPEX that we are doing this year is largely the new Jaggery facility. That is about a 45-odd crore CAPEX which we are doing. There are no other CAPEX plans. I think it is just given the industry situation, given perhaps the more macroeconomic situation, I think we will hunker down and run for cost and efficiency in terms of the core business. In terms of the CPG business, we will invest in brand building, expansion of distribution, and strengthening of the marketing mix.

Rushabh

In terms of the consumer products, just a follow-up. I think you have a recalibrated strategy of focusing more on the higher margin segments. Is it reasonable to assume that since you have been in this segment for quite a while now, at least in the next 3-4 years, can we assume a significant share of profits or revenues, say 20-25% coming from this segment? Or how should one look at the segment scaling up now? Or is it too early to say?

Rushabh

Okay, thank you.

Moderator

Thank you. We will take our next question from the line of Raja Kumar Vaidyanathan from RK Invest. Please go ahead.

Rajakumar Vaidyanathan

Thanks for the opportunity. Just a couple of questions. The first one is, there was a recent Appellate Tribunal order dated September 2025 tariff ruling which many of the Tamil Nadu sugar companies have taken advantage of. Just wanted to know, is that award not applicable to EID Parry?

Abdul Hakeem Ashiq

Can you repeat the question, Appellate--

Muthiah Murugappan

I think some of the others took advantage of it. It is not applicable to us.

Abdul Hakeem Ashiq

Yes, it's not applicable to us because largely our power exports are through IEX. Some of our peers have taken benefit of it, you are right.

Rajakumar Vaidyanathan

Because I saw EID was mentioned in the tribunal order as a co-applicant, that's the reason I am asking.

Rajakumar Vaidyanathan

Maybe you have done it in the past, sir. It's not now, maybe, because the order is applicable, I think, way back 2010-something.

Biswa Mohan Rath

At present, we are exporting mostly on exchanges, but the tariff order also predates. So, we have some units where our power purchase agreement we may get little benefit for those periods, but we are yet to assess those years.

Rajakumar Vaidyanathan

Okay, but for any reason you are not taking cognizance of the benefit in this quarter because other companies have already accrued that benefit, that's the reason I am asking.

Biswa Mohan Rath

We have not taken cognizance of those things.

Rajakumar Vaidyanathan

Okay, but is it a substantial amount?

Biswa Mohan Rath

I don't think it's a substantial amount.

Rajakumar Vaidyanathan

So, the second question is, what is the outlook for the sugar planting in Tamil Nadu sugar mills?

Abdul Hakeem Ashiq

We have planted roughly about we are looking at about 10-15% increase in the planting.

Abdul Hakeem Ashiq

We had a good upside on recovery. If your question is relevant to Tamil Nadu, we had about a 0.5% improvement in recovery and that, I think, is endemic across multiple sugar units in TN because we have had good weather, diurnal weather. Karnataka also had a good upside in recovery. So, those two are big positives for us.

Rajakumar Vaidyanathan

And do you expect this momentum to continue in the upcoming years? Do you see an increase in planting based on the previous year’s good performance?

Abdul Hakeem Ashiq

Tamil Nadu will be constrained because of attractiveness of the other crops. The government has been focusing on paddy per se, as you are aware. Having said that, we look at the portion of improving from where we are in terms of planting and also expect some upsides on recovery.

Rajakumar Vaidyanathan

And lastly, any word on this, if the fuel blending, if it goes beyond 20%, so what would be the impact on the sugar industry and particularly EID Parry? Will we be participating on the upside? What is your outlook on that?

Abdul Hakeem Ashiq

Any increase in the ethanol blending percentage would benefit the sugar industry and our base assumption is that the government would want to support the sugar industry. We will benefit by higher allocations in Karnataka from the OMCs. What it would translate is probably increase the capacity utilizations. We have, as Muthu pointed out earlier, produced about 16 crore liters. We would probably tend towards 17 crore liters if there is an improvement in ethanol blending percentage.

Rajakumar Vaidyanathan

And lastly, any word on MSP for sugar?

Abdul Hakeem Ashiq

Not really. I think given the inflationary pressures it is unlikely.

Rajakumar Vaidyanathan

Okay. Thank you so much.

Moderator

Thank you. Next question is from the line of Vardharajan, an individual investor, please go ahead.

Vardharajan

The company has a grand vision of diversifying into a food company but other than sugar, I don't see any growth anywhere. No significant operation either yet. When do you think Parry will turn profitable actually? Yes, sugar refinery has gone. That is one big stone off the neck. But other divisions are also not showing much improvement.

Muthiah Murugappan

Yes, so thank you. Thank you for the question. So, maybe let me start with the first point which you made in terms of product line. It is largely sweetener focused. Obviously, a core competency and that is how we have gotten started on the CPG business. So, I think we are really doubling down. We are the market leader there. So, I think it makes sense to strengthen that position. As you know, we entered the staples category. We have recalibrated the strategy there to focus on certain channels. There is also more products on the sweeteners realm which I also spoke in response to an earlier question around newer categories which we are looking at which is ethnic snacking as well as culinary convenience. So, there certainly is a broader vision, but you are right. For now, I think the revenues are really focused around the sweetener segment where we are consciously doubling down with the intent of strengthening the business model and strengthening the margin on the business. And I think doing so, will enable us to really attract that capital to grow the business out further. So, I think that is the intent from a CPG perspective. Now in a broader sense, I think you have pointed out from a profitability standpoint. The refinery was of course a constraining element. We have addressed it. There were some conversations around the TN operations and I would put AP into that as well where cane has been dwindling. This has been a drag. So, we are running very tightly on cost and efficiency. So, over time, I think we will have to manage this piece better, bring costs down, improve our working capital management to stem the losses which are coming from this segment. I think our Karnataka operations remain a very, very critical and core area of focus. They are very positive EBITDA generating. We have looked at the metrics and they certainly compare to best in class in the industry. And I think we will continue to focus on Karnataka, which will drive the core part of the company in terms of profits and cash flows.

Vardharajan

I have two more questions, significant questions. Number one is, are we looking at acquisitions in the food business or snacking business to grow the product line?

Muthiah Murugappan

So, as I mentioned, there are two areas of interest for us, one is ethnic snacking and culinary convenience and we are working out how best to launch into these spaces. But I will reiterate that I think strengthening the current business model is very, very important in order to build a stronger business model and also to attract capital for growth. This is really why we are focused on that.

Vardharajan

The biggest concern for the Murugappa group is that both Coromandel and EID Parry are vulnerable for takeover. Look at Coromandel’s market cap, we hold 56% of it. Look at our market cap, 41% of equity in EID Parry is held with the public. Don't you think we are under a takeover attack?

Muthiah Murugappan

So, look, this is not something which I would like to comment on here. I think we are here to really discuss the EID Parry operation.

Moderator

I am sorry to interrupt, sir. Your voice is breaking.

Muthiah Murugappan

Yes. So, sir, in answer to your question, I think I will refrain from commenting on this because this is not really in the context of the discussions here today, which is really to focus on the EID Parry operations.

Biswa Mohan Rath

E.I.D. Parry 40% held by promoter, 60% by public. So, Coromandel 56% by EID Parry so how can it be taken over? This forum is not for discussion on that. So, I don’t think there is any such takeover threat.

Vardharajan

Like a strong player acquiring some considerable portion of the public equity can influence some institutional investors to swing also. I am talking out of concern. I am not casting aspersions. I am worried about EID Parry and its existence.

Biswa Mohan Rath

You should be concerned about every public limited company because as per SEBI regulations only 75% should be held by the promoters.

Vardharajan

Anyway, if you are satisfied, I have nothing to get worried about. I just need to get a stronger answer.

Muthiah Murugappan

Sir, we are not concerned. As you know, this promoter group has owned and run these businesses for a very long time. We have seen multiple cycles. We have also seen a very challenging restructuring, which you have just done of the refinery. So, I think, you know, we are very, very long-term players. So, we are not seeing a concern. You are free to voice this, but we are not seeing a concern. But as I said, I would refrain from further discussing it here because we are here to talk about EID Parry performance.

Vardharajan

As a shareholder, I am concerned about when we will resume paying the dividends.

Muthiah Murugappan

As I said, sir, I think we are working towards a strengthening of the business model. You have seen actions that we have taken through the year. And I think it's our endeavor to strengthen the business operations going forward.

Vardharajan

Next year, possibly?

Muthiah Murugappan

Sir, as I said, I think it's in our endeavor to strengthen the business operations of the company going forward. I can't really give you any timelines on this.

Moderator

Thank you. As there are no further questions from the participants, I now hand the conference back to the management for closing comments.

Muthiah Murugappan

Thank you all for logging into the Q4 and FY26 Conference Call. We look forward to connecting again at the end of Q1.

Moderator

Thank you very much. On behalf of DAM Capital Advisors Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you all for joining us today. You may now disconnect your lines.