Elecon Engineering Company Limited analyst Q&A

Thank you for the opportunity. My first question is, the Gear-to-MHE ratio was 63:37 for quarter 4, as against the historical trend of 75:25. Do we expect this as per the trend going forward and its effect on the EBITDA margin?

No. Going forward, the EBITDA margin should not be affected. We still do expect further growth in the Material Handling Division going forward while the Gear Division also grows. So, the mix might change further, but we do not expect the long-term margin to vary.

Thank you. And my second question is, can you give me the number of domestic and export split for Gear and MHE, and the…

Can you repeat it? We could not hear you very clearly. If you could repeat that please.

So can you give me the domestic and export split for Gear and MHE and engineered versus catalogue mix for Gear for the quarter 4?

So, the mix of engineered versus catalogue is -- for the quarter CP is 55%, that is the standard product, and engineered product is 45%, that is the customized product. And for the year FY '26, catalogue product is 55% versus engineered product being 45%.

Okay. And my last question is, what issues is MHE facing since order inflow for the quarter was a 10-quarter low?.

It is a timing difference. In fact, we were expecting certain opportunities to be converted into orders, but it has been deferred for Q1. In fact, in the month of April, we have already received almost more than INR15 crores orders. So, we are hoping that in April month itself, we can mitigate that gap of Q4, which has been generated.

We have the next question from the line of Balasubramanian from Arihant Capital.

Sir, we have a capex program of INR400 crores. How much was spent in FY26? And if you could share what is the capex split between Gear and MHE? And I am trying to understand the ROCE part also. I think ROCE has fallen from 29% in FY24 to 20.4% in FY26. So, I am trying to understand with higher capex and lower margins, when we can be able to bounce back to at least a 25% level by FY28.

So, let me take the lead on this question. This is Chintan. We have a capex plan, as we just last quarter of these INR400 crores between FY26 to FY28. We have roughly spent about INR95 crores towards different -different categories. After that, if you want to have a split, Gear has almost 80% of the spend and MHE has the rest of the spend. Coming back to your question on ROCE from FY24 to FY26, it's a valid question. What I want to highlight right now is, as we grow, our base for equity and capital employed increases. And if you look at the quality of the total capital that we employ, almost INR800 crores of the balance that we have is parked in different forms of investments. Now, we have a policy of investments where we are very conservative with the investments, and so the yield on the investment is about 8%. So, this is point number one. Point number two, every year in the last two years, we have generated average cash post -tax of about INR300 to INR350 crores. So, every year, we have added new cash to the capital employed. But to that extent, our capex has not happened. So, we have not increased our installed capacity by way of increasing the capex. So, as we move through this year and the next two years, we will have our own capex. We will build the capability, increase the installed capacity and have and we will see the results in terms of revenue increase and the EBITDA increase, improving the margin. Having said that, this position of INR750 to INR800 crores that we have as an investment is a good problem to have. That gives us the flexibility to remain open for any strategic investments as well as expansion. We are just closely monitoring the macroeconomic conditions and would like to continue with this same approach at least for some more time till the time we hav e clarity on the expansions that we want to do.

Sir, on the defense side, one of the Navy orders impacted our margins. However, the future RFPs also pushed out, like Corvette by Q3 FY27 and IAC also in Q1 FY27. So, like whether we can be able to win at least one or two Navy orders by FY27 and how long it will take to get larger defense contracts, and are we qualified for upcoming Navy orders?

Yes, I am Dipak here. So, for this financial year, Q4, we are expecting a very good order from the Indian Navy and that is a big order at this moment.

Okay, sir. As a follow-up on that, I think it's an initial order and we might have a lower margin. Maybe in upcoming defense orders, can we expect higher margin levels?

So, as far as these are project orders, margins are actually good margins. For small orders, of course, there will be a margin gap. But for this kind of a big project order, there are good margins.

Just to refine the answer, the first order that we executed, and as we discussed in our last call, since the first order has a lot of developmental initiatives and activities, we had a slightly lower margin as we communicated last time that 1% or 2% margin was lower. If we get a repeat order of the same grade that we are talking about, then yes, the margin will be good. And in terms of timeline, it's almost two years that we see.

Yes, these kinds of project orders are executed between two to three years.

Okay, sir. My last question, first thing about what is our current capacity utilization level in Q4? And secondly, I try to understand our pricing power. If we could you rank your end markets -- power, steel, cement, mining, defense, sugar, plastic and rubber by the pricing power side? So where have we seen more competitive pricing pressure and where we are getting a higher margin?

Yes, sir the second one.

So for answering your second question, our engineered products have a better margin than the catalogue products. So, definitely, we are going for the better margin engineering products.

Okay, sir. Okay, thank you.

Thank you. We have the next question from the line of Raj Shah from ENAM AMC. Please go ahead.

Thank you for the opportunity. My first question was, sir, on the revenue front, if we see on the export side for the quarter, we have largely maintained what was there in the same quarter l ast year. But when it comes to gears, especially in domestic gears, the revenues are down by 27%. So within gears that too in the domestic geography, exactly where are we seeing such kind of delays in dispatches where customers are not ready to take up the delivery? Can you be a little specific in sharing your thoughts?

In this space we faced these issues where the customers asked us to defer the delivery, specifically in the steel sector, a little bit more. Another reason why also there was a reduction in the turnover is specifically because we got the order booking a little bit later because everyone was trying to defer their capex investment because of the current geopolitical scenario. Hence, the order booking was late, so it could not be executed within the year. But we expect it to really improve in this quarter.

Got it. Okay. And this delay in orders was it specific to any large order or it was broad -based within the steel sector that you are talking about?

It was not for a specific large order. It was deferred across the board.

Okay. Got it. Secondly sir on this Mexico part, we are aware that the management was contemplating investing or setting up some assembly center even before the tariffs kicked in. So, today, what is the scenario? Do we still attract 50% tariff or what kind of strategies are we seeing to cater to that part of the geography?

So, right now in the USA, we have the 50% tariff. Whatever we are exporting from India to our subsidiaries in USA or to customers in USA. So that is 50% because of Section 2(32), but with the establishment of this Mexico we will have the Latin America and that tariff is not applicable there. So, we want to get the opportunity to establish and to supply our products from here to Latin America.

Okay. And will we be investing or incurring any capex in Mexico?

Not much right now. We just established. We will come back to you after some time.

Okay, sir.

Sure. Thank you.

Thank you. We have the next question from the line of Harsh Patel from Share India Securities. Please go ahead.

Hello. Thank you so much for the opportunity. I wanted to just get an update on the export side. So, as we had planned, we would be ramping our exports up to 50% in the next 3 to 4 years. So, what would be in the current geopolitical scenario, our ex port mix going forward? And how would be our sustainable margins till FY27 -28, if we are we focusing more on domestic or exports?

Going forward, this year despite the existing scenario, we have managed to maintain at least what we were able to perform last year. So, we expect going forward it will still improve. We have some improvement in order booking in a few of our entities, whi le the Middle East obviously has suffered significantly. So, we still expect regardless of what the situation is that we will be improving going forward. And the product mix, I mean, the EBITDA that you asked regarding the product mix and expor t versus domestic, we expect it to not affect us that much going forward.

So, what would be the sustainable margins which we would be focusing on going forward?

Right now, we can 't comment on that specifically because of the current scenario and it is currently an ever-changing scenario. So, we cannot comment on it right now. We will address the situation and get back once we have a better understanding.

And one more thing I wanted to ask. Going forward, what kind of orders would be on the gear side? Is it customized gears or catalog ue gears are on a sale point for Elecon? Since the last couple of quarters, the mix has been on either way on catalogue kind of.

So, major it will be from the power industry and steel industries and cement is from there. So, major will be contribution for engineering and customized products. And catalogue products, it will be 2%-3% lower than the engineering product.

Okay. And what would be the margins in this industry in customized products we would be seeing?

See, typically we do not reveal the margin profile. We give a broad range in terms of how the product mix is moving and how it impacts our gross margin percentage . So customer level, product level and mixed level margins, we do not provide a comment.

Okay. Congrats. Thank you.

Thank you. We have the next question from the line of Kashyap Javeri from Emkay Investment Managers. Please go ahead.

Two questions from my side. One is to -- the first one is to Chintan. On this goodwill side, there is a comment number 8B in the notes to accounts. If you can explain that comment. And also, did we get any tax benefit from that goodwill write-off? That is the first question. And second is to Mr. Dalwadi. From the Gear Division side, or even in fact if Mr. Aayush can also throw some light. You mentioned that because of the geopolitical risk, there was some deferment of order booking. But overall, if you look at the geopolitical risk, that sort of rose only on the intervening night of 27th, 28th February. So, could 1-month make such a large difference?

Right. So, let me take up the first question about the goodwill. Yes, as you are referring to note number 8.B, there is detailed note in the notes to accounts which we will comprehensively cover. But let me explain to the entire large audience that we have. This goodwill represented the goodwill that we acquired way back in 2010-11 when Elecon did the acquisition of Benzlers and Radicon Group in the European region. Now, what happens is over the last 15 years, Elecon has done an integration of all these business into the Radicon group of products and the geographies that we have. We do not have any separate structure. The single team, sales and marketing and the operations team takes care of all the mix of the products that we have it. So, eventually, we realized that goodwill as a standalone on this acquisition do not have much value in our financials. Of course, the business as a whole has a valuation which doesn’t need to be like discounted right now, but it has a good cash flow profitability and all. But from a goodwill alone standalone basis, we do not see that the carrying amount should continue like this. And that is the reason we did the impairment. Coming back to your sub-question about the tax deduction of this write -off that we have done, this goodwill was never in the standalone financials. It was always a part of our consolidated financial statements. So, as far as tax deduction is concerned, it will be in the books of the entity where this goodwill is i.e in UK. As far as the tax deduction in the local tax is concerned, there is a tax deduction which is being claimed every year, and now only about 5 years are left with only a 1 million GBP. So, that is going to be claimed as a deduction in the next 5 years' time gradually. So, this is how the position is.

Okay, understood.

Regarding your question about the -- sorry, if I got it right, you were asking about...

So, my question was that the geopolitical risks, the major part of it played out starting February 27-28. And that one month has probably made a fairly large difference on the overall revenue height. So, if you can, so was this largely to do with the month of March or this played out throughout the quarter?

Actually, as you rightly said, I think the news about this discussion started coming in the last week of February. It got intensified in the first week of March. The largest impact is in the month of March. About INR77 crores of the orders were in a different bucket , like a couple of orders of INR12 crores, which were ready for dispatch, but it was on hold by the customer. We also had the order of about INR34 crores in the month of March which were scheduled to be delivered, but now it needs to be delivered probably in April and if the situation is clarified itself in April. We also had INR31 crores of the orders which were scheduled to be dispatched in March, but their production was put on hold on an immediate basis. And that's how we had almost INR70 crores impact for this event in the month of March. And if you look at your end I know where you are coming from. In the December quarter itself, we had lower down our guidance and we communicated that we are reducing the revenue in the quarter ending March by at least 5%. So, that's the guidance we already had released in the month of January when we were talking about December quarter and March quarter.

Okay, okay. Just one last question on the receivable side. That number has gone up from INR610 crores to about INR720 crores. Any particular reason for that if I look at what's in September?

The increase of about INR90 crores compared to last year's balance sheet if you look at it. From INR90 crores, INR70 crores to INR75 crores is largely because of the sale which has happened in the February and in the March, which has not due even as on 31st March. And about INR15- -odd crores is overdue compared to the same bucket of the last year, which is getting the effect in the month of April.

Okay, Okay. Understood. Thank you.

Thank you. We have the next question from the line of Pratik Kothari from Unique PMS. Please go ahead.

Yes, sir. Good afternoon. Sir, in domestic gears, we did highlight the delays in terms of from steel sectors. If you can touch upon the various other sectors we cater to from sugar, power, cement, how are things standing out there and because we see the order book kind of building up from INR600 crores last year to INR900 crores. So, across sectors, is the execution expected to be delayed, gradual, if you can just touch upon that?

Moving forward the executions are not being delayed because for the domestic, now there is visibility and we are having a good orders in the on hand and at the same time, good orders in the pipeline also. So, we anticipate that there won't be any delays in , I mean, deliveries for the power sectors and for the cement and steel, because steel is also now expanding their executions. And power, of course, they are demanding the projects to be closed very fast. So, they all are demanding. So, I don't see any delays in delivery for the power sectors and cement, steel sectors.

And how about the cement, sugar?

Cement is stagnant as such, but even though we are getting good orders from 2 -3 major contractors. But cement they are more in the brownfield projects than the greenfield. So, they are moving at their own pace. And sugar industry is now, because of this, we are anticipating good orders from the sugar because now with gas and these petroleum, we are facing we may face problems from this war situation. So, ethanol will be now on the demand. So, we are also anticipating good demand from the sugar also.

Correct, correct. So, one of margins I mean, usually, our engineered products are in I mean when you look at the mix, it is usually in 50s. I mean, this, I think, was a different year where we saw it at 45%. So one, if this goes back, I mean, why aren't we guiding that our margins will go back to the earlier numbers?

I mean, we will sustain the margins. But at this moment, we are not I mean…

Generally, when we calculate the margins, what we projected at the beginning of the year , we, based on the EP and CP is the 50-50 standard we considered. But during the year, the orders we received in the catalogue product was the delay from the customer side of the projects they have. So, catalog ue product orders we received much more than the engineered product. I n the beginning of the year and the second part of the year. So, that's why that execute in the same year, but the EP product s order we have in hand on the 31st of March of 2026. So, it may be executed next year sometime.

Just to clarify what Ashish is saying, what we are not giving clear guidance that we expect it to go up simply because of the current geopolitical scenario and we don't know how it could pan out. But if all the domestic orders go smoothly and what demand we are expecting comes in, you are right, we will be able to go back to the EBITDA levels that we had suggested even earlier, which is close to 22% to 24%.

Right, right, right. And the last one capex...

Sorry to interrupt you . Mr. Pratik, sorry to interrupt you. Could you please kindly come in the follow-up -- in the queue for follow-up questions?

Done. Okay.

Thank you. We have the next question from the line of Aman Soni from Nvest Analytics Advisory. Please go ahead.

Thanks for the opportunity. First question, do we have any applications for order visibility from the nuclear side?

Sorry from the?

Nuclear side.

No, we don't.

Okay. And secondly, you are mentioning that visibility is there in the domestic market, particularly from the steel and the power, and things are improving. Then I am not able to understand why are we not getting any real guidance on that part, maybe on the growth side, as well as the margins front for FY27?

We have a strong order book, right? But we have our own learning in the last two quarters where despite having order books, there were delay in the dispatch schedules and all. So, we have, based on that learning, decided to stay at least for a few months, till the time we have clarity on the situation that we have.

The situation is quite good till at the moment, where we see that there is a possibility that everything will be smooth going forward. Again, I believe yesterday or today, we have seen conflicting news and information. So, this is the reason we want to keep a hold on that for right now. And once things clear out, we will be able to give you a much clearer picture.

Okay. Got it. And because of all this scenario in the Middle East, there must be some infra redevelopment requirements, right? Do you people see any history of that, like some new orders may be coming in because of this infra redevelopment that will be required in the Middle East?

Yes. There is no doubt that there will be a strong requirement going forward once everything clears out. But which direction it is going in, we are still not sure based on how the outcome go ahead. So, while you are right, there is a possibility for a significant uptick in orders from the Middle East, we can't guarantee that which way it's going to go until the war situation.

Got it. And regarding the defence orders, specifically that aircraft carrier that we were expecting by FY27, what is the current update on that sir?

Yes, so Shipyard already got the orders from the Indian Navy. So, anytime in the Q1, they are going to release the RFP. And then we are expecting orders to come by Q4 of the financial year.

So, it is getting delayed, right? Because earlier I think you mentioned Q2 of FY27?

It is a little bit deferred from the defense.

Okay. And what about the P-17 Alpha, sir?

P-17 Alpha also they have deferred, but it may come in the financial year of '28, around Q3 . Because even shipyard have not even received the RFQ.

Okay. Got it. So, all in all, can we expect marginal growth over FY26? Or there can be a scenario of degrowth as well in FY27?

No, we are not expecting any degrowth to happen compared to FY26. We are expecting growth. The amount of growth is currently what is under question. But otherwise, we are expecting growth.

And how confident are you on the margins front? Like, you will be able to at least maintain or grow it from FY26?

From FY26 we will be able to definitely maintain or grow it. We are expecting growth, but the geopolitical situation will control it a little bit. What we are anticipating there is going to be an increase in some raw material costs or logistic costs. We are already filling that into our new orders. So, that shouldn't affect us.

And any kind of supply chain issues are you people observing right now because of the Strait of Hormuz closure and all? That can further lead to some problems maybe in the margins front or the execution of the orders?

Generally, for our domestic orders, we don't see that happening. Only wherever there is something in the Middle East, we expect that to be affected. So, our overseas entity, which is in UAE, that one will be affected. But our other entities and domestic operations, we don't see it affecting us.

Got it, sir. Thank you very much, sir, and all the best for the future.

Thank you. We have the next question from the line of Ashwani Sharma from Emkay Global Financial. Please go ahead.

Yes, good evening, sir. Sir, my first question is on the inquiry pipeline, which you indicated that we have a healthy inquiry pipeline. Is it possible to quantify for both the segments, gear and the MHE?

Yes, so as on June 4 FY26, the open orders that we had for the Gear Division was about INR894 crores. And for the same period last year, what we had was about INR583 crores. If I look at the MHE Division, for Q4 FY26, it's roughly about INR398 crores versus what we had in Q4 FY25 is INR365 crores. That's how it's about totaling to about INR1,292 crores of open orders we have as on 31st March 2026 versus what we had as an open order book of about INR948 crores as of 31st March 2025. And basically, this only gives us the confidence in a lot of the questions that are being raised right now in terms of how we maintain the margins or revenue. So this is one of them.

I was referring to the inquiry pipeline which did not get converte d, which got deferred because of geopolitical reasons.

Okay. Yes. For MHE, yes, we have a good inquiry inflow. If I am quantifying, it is more than INR1,000 crores inquiry we have right now for various sectors.

And for the Gear Division, it is very good news for all of us that in the first week itself, we are having whatever inquiry was in the pipeline it is converted -- going to be converted in the order in 1- or 2-days’ time. We have already got the LOI. So, it's a very single largest big order ever got in the industrial gear business market. So that is, in few days, you will get the good news.

Okay.

From the power sector.

Okay. And secondly, since deferred revenue when you talk about, is it possible to quantify how much was that?

Okay. The second question I had on the MHE. If you look at the growth trajectory of MHE, I think it's been very, very strong in the last 4 to 5 years. This year, I think obviously there is some moderation in terms of order inflow and that we see in the order backlog as well. What kind of growth one should estimate given the fact that power in th e space is doing really great, thermal especially? From an estimation perspective, what kind of growth should we assume going ahead within the next two to three years? Is it possible to quantify?

As I mentioned that we have a good inquiry flow for the MHE business. Definitely, that power sector is going to help us to grow further. But at this point of time, I can only assure you that whatever growth trajectory we have shown in the last two, three years, we can definitely continue with the same pace and growth percentage.

All right, sir. All the very best to you. Thank you.

Thank you. We have the next question from line of Pathanjali Srinivasan from Sundaram Mutual Fund. Please go ahead.

Hello, sir. Thank you for the opportunity. I have a couple of questions. So firstly, with respect to the increase in prices of input costs, how do they get passed on with respect to the order book business because you would have taken the order some time back, right?

In those cases, we would have already placed the orders or secured the prices for the raw material as soon as we received the order because we were expecting this situation to take place. So, to safeguard us, we have already taken action as soon as we have received.

Our execution cycle is also not long. So, it will be taken care of. Whatever orders are on hand, we have already placed the order and we are executing. So, even suppliers are not in a position to claim what is their need actually. So, it is all the pending orders, we taken care.

Whatever inflation is there has already taken care of already with respectively order book. So, there will not be much impact in terms of margins for whatever existing business you have. Is that the correct way to understand?

Yes. Yes.

And one more question with respect to our current order book, Gear and MHE segment. What would be the segments where we have a sensible point? Let's talk two to three segments.

Power, steel and cement. These are the three main sectors where we are seeing good demand.

Okay. And within this, you are saying there is a slowdown or something with respect to steel, right? Could you explain a bit on that?

There was a deferment of delivery that was requested from the customer end. The orders were, the gearboxes were ready in that case, but we could not deliver it to the customer and we couldn’t invoice because of that. So, there are a few cases where there was deferment, but it will be cleared in Q1 and …

Okay, Got it. Thanks.

This is a usual phenomenon. It can happen, but specifically because of the geopolitical situation, it was affected even more.

Thank you. We have the next question from the line of Rohan from Envision Capital. Please go ahead.

Hello. Thank you, for the opportunity. So, sir, you mentioned that in sugar, given the geopolitical issues related to crude prices, we expect strong demand going forward , and order excess going forward. Can you explain a little bit more? Because what we are hearing from some other players is that there is excess capacity built in, in the country for ethanol. So, how should one look at it? Thank you.

No, actually, because of this war situation only we anticipate that if it continues till further, then there will definitely a lack of supply for the gases and the petroleum. So, that's why we anticipate that there will be demand for ethanol and we will need to produce more and more ethanol. That is all anticipation.

Okay. Okay. Understood. Thank you.

Thank you. We have the next question from the line of Manish Goyal from ThinkWise Wealth Managers. Please go ahead.

Yes. Thank you so much, sir. Sir, this is particularly for the Gear business margins. As you provided the revenue mix for quarter 4 where catalogue was 55% and engineered was 45%. But, sir, if I look on Y-o-Y basis and compare with Q4 of last year, your catalogue has actually come down from 60% to 55% and your engineered product has improved from 40% to 45%. So, I just do not understand why there is such a margin impact. And also, a related question which you earlier alluded to in terms of development orders from the Navy which are being implemented and have lower margins. So, what is the impact? What is the size and what kind of this development orders are you referring to? Is this something related to your P-17 Alpha orders or if you can highlight that? And, sir, if we see your overall margin for the entire year for the Gear s business, what we have reported in FY26 these margins are in fact lower than what was reported in FY22. In FY22, you were roughly at a 20% margin and which increased to 26% in FY24 and now has fallen to 18.8%. So, how do we see this going forward, sir? I would really appreciate if you can provide perspective on this. Thank you.

Yes. Your first question for the engineered products versus catalogue products. So, yes, we had done, the catalogue products 55% and engineered products 45%. We have better margins in the engineered products. But this year, we could not execute the order, or we couldn’t supply/dispatch the orders to the customers because of the customers' requirements. So, the margins are not reflecting in our financials. Despite because we have some inventory of the engineered products so it will and we have not invoiced during the quarter and during the year. So, because of this, the margins have not improved this year against the last year.

So, what is this number, sir? How much of these orders? Earlier you had mentioned INR77 crores. So, I just want to reconfirm how much of these orders are pertaining to Gear business and engineered products?

Almost 50% of the open orders we have in engineered products. But the inventory we have is around INR45 to INR46 crores. That includes the margin because we are valuating the inventory at cost. So, around 2 5% to 30% margins, if we consider them in the inventory , when we are invoicing. So that is not reflecting in the financials.

Okay, okay. And so just to complete my earlier question on the five-year picture where your margins are lowest right now. Ideally, sir, do you really expect that margins should revert to your green level of 23 %-24%? Now with your dispatches improving, you will probably get operating leverage with the revenue growth. So, in FY27, do you expect the margins to improve, sir?

If you compare with FY22-23 because India was in a growth trajectory, the capex was going on and it is still going on. We were getting good orders in engineered products. So, that's why margins were good at that time. Now we are also getting orders in engineered products, but that was not reflected in the invoicing this year. So, that's why the margins is not reflecting. The second thing is R&D cost because we are developing some new products. If you see our investor presentation, we have taken four patents and we are applying for three more patents. So, we are also working on R&D to develop new products and upgrade existi ng products. So, we are also spending some cost there.

And what is pertaining to the development orders, sir, what you referred to earlier? In earlier calls also you had mentioned that there is a couple of percentage point margin impact due to some orders related to the Navy. So, if you can just clarify on this.

For the navy orders, we will come back to you.

Sure. And last question on the MHE margins, sir. How do we see that sustainable? Because now for MHE margins, you are adjusting the inter -segmental numbers also. And after that, you are providing the margins in the presentation. So, what is the sustainable margi n for MHE? Would it be at 22 %-23% going forward? Considering now that equipment contribution will increase and your spare parts may not grow in the same pattern as your equipment business.

Considering the revenue mix, as you mentioned, the sustainable margin is around 20% to 22% in between.

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, due to time constraints, that was the last question. I would now like to hand the conference over to the management for closing comments.

Thank you all for taking the time to join our investor call today and for your continued trust and engagement. While the Gear Division experienced a temporary moderation in performance in FY26 due to execution timing factors, the underlying fundamentals of the business remain strong. At the same time, the MHE division continues to demonstrate consistent growth momentum and has delivered revenues ahead of the guidance set for the year, supported by robust demand across these sectors and has strong execution pipeline. With two well -established divisions, the business remains structurally balanced and is not reliant on a single segment for the overall performance. Together, both the divisions position up well for sustained and resilient growth going forward. As previously communicated, we will not be providing forward -looking guidance for FY27. However, our strategic priorities remain unchanged, focused on disciplined execution, operational efficiency, prudent capital allocation, and strengthening our presence in high growth markets. Despite near-term challenges, we remain confident in our ability to take advantage of long-term growth process and to deliver long-term sustainable value to our stakeholders. Thank you once again for your participation and continued support. Should you have any further questions, please feel free to reach out to our CFO. Thank you and have a great evening.

Thank you. On behalf of Emkay Global Financial Services Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us and you may now disconnect your lines.