Thank you very much. We will now begin the qu estion ‐and‐answer session. The first question comes from the line of Dipen Vakil from Phillip Capital. Please go ahead.
FY2026 Q1
Hi, Thank you for this opportunity, sir. Sir, my first question is, I wanted to understand a little bit more on your revenue recognition as to how doe s your revenue recognition occur. Because you mentioned that you have recently delivered one of our P‐17 A and another one is almost 80% complete, so does those milestones also represent the kind of amount that you would have received from government? Or even after deliveries there is some amount whic h is still pending to be received from government? So, can you throw some light on the revenue liquidation for your deliveries and milestones?
Thank you. Yes, the projects that we are executing are now at a stage of maturity, production maturity where revenue accrual is either peakin g or would be peaking in the coming months and years. Coming specifically to the P‐17 Alpha project. See, all the government projects which we are executing for the Navy or the Coast Guard, they have defined stage payments. Just to give you an example, a big project li ke this which spans over a duration of five years plus, there are 15 stage payments. With the 14th stage coming when the ship is delivered, and the 15th stage is after the guarantee period is over. So as far as the receivables are concerned, when we say we are delivering a ship, we would already have received almost 95% of the total project cost. Coming to the revenue. The r evenue recognition happens as we are pumping in the labor, the material, the yard effort and so on. As far as revenue recognition is concerned, in this particular project, the entire revenue recognition happens at the time of delivery. So, with the first P‐17 Alpha, we have realized th e full revenue. And as far as the second P‐17 Alpha is concerned, the Pag e 7 of 14 ship is currently at 80% physical progress. And since the delivery of this ship is planned during April 2026, I appreciate that by March end we should be able to accrue almost 90%, 92% of the revenue. I think that answers your question.
Absolutely. Thank you so much for th is clarification. Sir, my second question is on the lines of the new product development that GRSE is doing. So, earlier we had mentioned that you were also looking at some autonomous underwater vehicle, so any progress on that? And what can be the opportunities in this area considering that au tonomous is turning out to be a new game changer vehicle, especially in land as well as underwater?
Thank you. Our focus has been on new product development. One, as I mentioned, I have been passing earlier, on two segments; actually, three segments, I forgot to mention a se gment earlier. First one is development of autonomous platforms, both in the surface and sub‐surface domain. I will cover this right now since you asked me this specific question. We have developed an Unmanned Underwater Platform. And this platform has already undergone its prototype trials satisfactorily at Leh in Kashmir. We have inc orporated certain modifications in the prototype and the product is now ready for final trials. Coming to the unmanned surface business. We had developed this product in 2023. In 2024, we have already executed order for one of the DRDO organizations, the NSDL, Visakhapatnam. And ba sed on the inputs that we have received, we have incorporated additional features in this unmanned surface vessel. And on both unmanned surface vessel and the underwater platform, the opportunities are phenomenon with both the Navy and the Coast Guard and some of the research organizations coming up with the requirements. Still , I would like to place this clearly that development of such platforms, as a nation, it is still at nascent stage. I expect more maturity to come in this entire segment in the coming two to three years. The opportunities and potential definitely see a huge pride. We are fu lly geared up for that and our advantage is that as a big company, we have invested, taken partners who are capable and have developed products. Now it's a question of fine‐tuning to meet the customer requirements. As I said in the next, okay, two to three years we exp ect the potential to really boom. Second area where we are developing a new technology product is the green vessels. As you perhaps aware that we have already built the largest green platform for India, that is 150‐ passenger platform and the fastest so far built in India. And this ve ssel is currently plying the waters of Hoogly River. Based on the success of this product, we have received an order for 13 hybrid ferries. So currently, in India, there are only two big shipyards, GRSE and Cochin Shipyard building these kinds of platforms as of now. The third area in terms of new p roduct development that we are focusing is on the Bailey Bridge segment, where we have proprietary rights of at least two or three varieties of bridges, Pag e 8 of 14 which are being regularly supplied to the Indian Army and the Border Roads Organization and the NHIDCL. So new product development has so far given us a good foothold in the respective segments of what I had mentioned. Thank you.
Thank you so much for this detailed response. I will ge t back in the queue for my follow‐up question. Thank you so much and all the best.
Thank you. We take the next question from the line of Krishna Doshi from Ashika Institutional Equities. Please go ahead.
Thank you so much for the opportunity. Cong ratulations on a good set of numbers, sir. Sir my first question happens to be for P‐17 Alpha project. Now the project will be coming to an end by August 2026. I just wanted to know how do we see the margins and the revenue panning out for the year FY '27 and FY '28? Do we see so me sort of an impact on the top line? Or how is it going ahead?
Thank you, Krishna. And at the outset, thank you for your wishes on our Q1 performance. Yes, the Q1 was good and it has give n us the right kind of momentum to see the year through. Yes, the P‐17 Alpha project is on moving very much on schedule and we intend completing the project by mid‐2026, that is August 2026. And since this project is a big‐ticket item, we expect both the top lin e and the bottom line to maintain the tempo that we have sustained over the last three years. What I am trying to convey is that FY '25 has been very good for us. We crossed ₹5,000 crore barrier with respect to our top line. And as far as th e profit after tax is concerned, we have also crossed ₹500 crore mark, which means these are two first for us. With the P‐17 Alpha project being the biggest revenue earner and, of course, it's the high‐value project, I expect similar growth in FY '26 as well as FY '27 in te rms of both top line and bottom line. Thank you.
Thank you so much sir for the answer. The next question that I wanted to ask is with respect to the next‐generation corvette order, like we have set this very optimistic time line of si gning the contract by December. So, I just wanted to understand that how does it go post that? Because the first ship, as you mentioned earlier in the con call, it usually takes like some time. So how is it going to go like going forward, like when are we going to p ossibly deliver the first ship?
Thank you. Very interestingly, as we speak, contract negotiations are in progress. Actually, during this con call itself I was getting distressed as to some input I have to give there. What I am trying to say, the project negotiations are go ing in full swing. And most optimistically, this is exactly what I mentioned during the last con call that most optimistically the contract could get signed by end of the calendar year, that is by December. And on a conservative fashion, because the process involved that takes a bit of time, by th e financial year end. Pag e 9 of 14 Now , once the contract is signed, the preproduction activities start. What I mean by preproduction activities is finalization of the design, finalizing the equipment that needs to be procured, and the procurement action. These activities will take place during the initial phase of the project execution. The actual production after the de sign is finalized would commence after a certain period of time as per the contract. Now for the first ship delivery, as I understand, the first ship delivery would be by 2031. And the last ship delivery, because rather we would be constructing five ships be 2034 versus the ei ght ships project deliveries are staggered. Which means as a company, this particular big‐ ticket order gives us visibility up to 2034, with the first delivery starting from 2031. And as far as revenue recognition is concerned, we expect this project to give us revenue from FY '28 onwards. Thank you. Krishna Dos hi: Thank you, sir. I will get back in the question queue.
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Amit Dixit from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
Hi, Good afternoon, everyone. Thanks for the opportunity. So, a couple of questions sir. The first on e is on the level of indigenization that we have achieved on P‐17 Alpha. So, now we are reaching practically the end of the project, so what is the level of indigenization on it currently? And similarly, in NGC, if we get these contracts, then what would be the in digenization level that we are looking for? Similarly, P‐17 Bravo, as and when it is decided, what is the level of indigenization we are going to look over there?
Thank you, Amit. So, your question is focusing on indigenization. Now I would just like to give you a littl e perspective, so that, we clearly understand the shipbuilding indigenization pattern. In shipbuilding, in a conventional war ship, we can divide the ship into a few compartments, that is a float, move, fight and survive. Float as in the hull form, the hull of the ship and the essential e quipment and systems required to float the ship. Move effectively becomes the propulsion package, the power generation package and so on. Fight would be the weapon and sensors. And the survival would be the firefighting equipment and so on. Now coming to the float element, we have 100% indigenisation as a nation and as a sh ipyard we have 100% indigenized components including specialized steel and so on. Coming to the move part. Here, the indigenization as of now is limited to everything other than the propulsion system, which means the propulsion package, the main engines, the diesel engines, the ga s turbines and so on, still have a large amount of import content. Now coming to the next part, that is the weapon and sensors. I would say with many Indian companies in both public and private focusing on weapon indigenization, again, we have achieved around 65% indigenization. And coming to the last, survive, is almost 100% indigenization. Now, in a ship the total cost of equipment, that is materials, comes to around 65% with the balance coming from the labor and the associated requirements, design, labor and so on. Now if you take the ove rall ship, you asked a specific question of P‐17 Alpha, the indigenization content all put together is plus 80%, it is between 80% and 85%. And in case of the Next‐ Generation Corvette and the P‐17 Alpha, with more equipment getting indigenized over this period of time, we ex pect the indigenization percentage to be between 85% and 90%. What would remain a very few weapons and equipment. And just to again place on record for the P‐17 Bravo, we expect a main project for the main propulsion engines to be successful by the time this project takes shap e. So even the propulsion could be indigenous. That's why, I said the overall indigenization percentage of both these projects, the Next‐Generation Corvettes as well as the P‐17 Bravo could be to the tune of 85% to 90%. Does that answer your question, Amit?
Yes, sir. Thank you so much. It does . The second question essentially is on the Greenfield Shipyard that we are looking at, very interesting. So, is it that we are looking at Deep‐Water Draft and also that we can further develop our capability to, let us say, destroyers, submarines, something like tha t? Or is it going to be in line with our current product range?
A very interesting question, actually a pointed question, nice question. See, yes, we are looking for a Greenfield Shipyard, primarily because what we have today in Kolkata is just enough. We are actually s tretching our teams, just enough to manage the existing orders and a few orders that are on the anvil. And we also want to set up a shipyard which does not have any draft issue and depth limitation. So naturally, it would be along the sea and the facility would cater for pl atforms up to destroyers and large commercial ships. Submarines requires facility as well as capability. But as a shipyard, at this juncture, we do not intend going into submarine building. Because I think I have mentioned once before, we may have the facility, but to create the kind of expert ise required to build submarines will take 20 to 30 years. So, we do not want to venture into something that we are not specialized in, whereas we are specialists in war ships, surface ship building. So, the facility that we would be creating would be adequate to meet all surface ship build ing requirements. Thank you.
Great sir! Thank you so much. All the best.
Hi. Thanks for giving me the opportunity. Congratulations for good results. Sir, I have two questions. One, could you give us the order book breakup, if you have not shared at the start of the call, I just missed the initial remarks for the order book. That's the first qu estion.
Thank you, Harshit. And at the outset, thank you for your compliments on the Q1 results. As I mentioned, it has given us the right kind of momentum to move ahead in the current financial year. Now coming to the order book distribution. Our current order b ook stands at ₹21,700 crores, and that is comprised of 10 Marine Platforms. I am at this moment, not talking about the orders which we are getting from ship repairs, the portable steel bridges and the deck machinery. So, the 10 projects comprised of four projects of the Indian Navy co nsisting of 14 platforms and six more projects, three Specialized Research Vessel projects consisting of four platforms, two Coastal Research Vessels, an Acoustic Research Ship and an Ocean Research Vessel, 13 Hybrid Ferries, Electric and Diesel Ferries for the Government of West Bengal, a Multipurpose Vessel Project, 8 Ship Project for a Ger man client, and 1,000‐meter cube dredger for the government of Bangladesh. So, all in all 10 projects. Now, if you want to further breakup. In our order book I had mentioned it is about ₹21,700 crore. Our core strength lies in shipbuilding and around 98% of our order bo ok is comprised of shipbuilding orders. Interestingly, earlier out of this 98% of shipbuilding order, 100% from defense shipbuilding. But as of now, 86% is coming from defense shipbuilding and balance nondefense shipbuilding, which we have branched out about two to three years back is now contributing the shipbuilding order bo ok composition of around 14%. Of this, research vessels around 9% and the export is around 5%. The other business vertical, ship repair, yes, the orders of course they keep coming, it's a dynamic situation. Right now, about 1% is from ship repair, the bridges and the diesel engine plant about 0. 5% and so on. So, I think this gives you an overall glimpse of the order book. I presume this is what you wanted. Thank you.
Yes, sir, this was really helpful, sir. And the second question which I wanted to check with you. In the Q4 results you had hi ghlighted that around ₹430 crore worth of provision you would be adding to profit with Rs. 100 crores of that being added in FY '25. Now, is the balance out of ₹330 crores, it was mentioned that it would be disbursed over next two to three years, the b alance amount. So, has Q1 seen any, I would not say what provision write‐back of any particular amount? Or largely, it would be done in H2 or Q4 is where we will see the reversal happening of the balance amount?
No, we have not factored it in the Q1. As you ri ghtly said, that we will be considering it in the H2, perhaps the first half of H2.
Almost 50‐50.
Fair enough, sir. That’s it from my side. Thank you very much sir. All the best.
Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Sanjeev Zarbade from Antique Stockbroking. Please go ahead.
Yes. Sir, my first question wa s regarding the subcontracting costs that have increased in the first quarter. So, I wanted to understand, what is our strategy going ahead in the medium term regarding the subcontracting portion? Do we intend to continue with like 15% to 20% of our sales as going into subcontracting? Or is it mo re of a short‐term measure that we have undertaken?
Thank you, Sanjeev. Yes, the subcontracting quantum has moved up almost by ₹104 crore from ₹131 crore to ₹235 crore. This is a natural phenomenon because right now, our ships are at a stage where maximum re venue accrual takes place. And so, the physical effort required to get these ships moving in terms of production is humongous at this stage of production. Second is now ship repairs also is moving in a direction where the projects which we are executing are reaching the end phase. So, the s ubcontracting concept and the percentage will remain the values which you have mentioned, around 15%, it will continue. It's not a spike. It will continue.
Okay. And also, sir, in the recent AON’s that were granted for ₹67,000 crores out of which some portion was for Navy also. An d in the Navy, they intend to acquire some autonomous vessels also. So, are we in contention for this kind of vessels like procurement of compact autonomous surface craft is what they intend. So, are we in this kind of platform right now or maybe going ahead?
Oka y. In the ₹67,000 crores, which was recently announced, and an earlier DSC approval, from the Navy's perspective, two major projects were highlighted and for which they got an AON. One, of course, is what you mentioned on the Autonomous Vessel projects, autonomous vessel projects both in the surface as well as the s ubsurface domain. Navy wants certain underwater platform, they call it XLA, Extra‐Large Autonomous underwater vehicles. GRSE is very much a part of this initiative or this requirement, and we will be bidding for that. But more than that, these are all small to medium value projects. To pu t things again in the right perspective, I had answered an earlier question. In terms of autonomous platforms for defense purpose, while the requirement very much exists the process is time consuming, still in a nascent stage. Next two to three years, you will see a rapid growth in this se gment. GRSE is very much a part of this initiative. Now again, since you mentioned this DSC approval for projects worth so on and so and so. Another project where Navy has gotten obtained an AUM is for the mine countermeasure vessel project. This is an attractive project. It's a 12‐war ship project. The AON value itself is around ₹32,000 crore split between the two shipyards, the L1 shipyard taking eight and L2 four. So that I think answers your question directly on the autonomous platforms, yes, we are very much a part of th is and we intend taking a good chunk of the pie.
Okay. Sir, just last question from my side. Normally what we see in the other two shipyards that announced their numbers, there is a sizable portion of provision that happens during the quarterly numbers and eve n in the full year numbers. However, provisions as an expense is not a sizable amount in our numbers. So, is there any difference in accounting for may be provisions or if you could throw some light on that?
No, we follow the standard accounting procedures, and we have bee n consistently following this. So, in case any other shipyard has provided, then that must be for a specific reason. So, I cannot comment on what the other shipyards have done. We have been consistent in our provisioning process.
Okay, sir. Thank you and all the be st.
Thank you. We take the next question from the line of Sunil Shah from SRE PMS. Please go ahead.
Thanks for the opportunity. Sir, congratulations on delivering the P‐17 Alpha, the first one, great service to the nation. So, thank you very much for all of it fo r the entire GRSE team. Thanks for that. Sir, my first question is about the capacity. We have really ramped up from 20 ships to 24 to 28 and 32 maybe in a year's time from now. And there are three locations that we are looking at, the first bein g the 30‐acre land in West Bengal that will help us to increase further capacity. So, I won't get the exact number of concurrent ship constructions that we can do eventually. So, first from the land, second from the greenfield shipyard that we propose for the East or the We st Coast eventually in time. And the third one is the Pipavav shipyard, where we have had some kind of an arrangement or MOU with them. So, how much at one point in time over the next, say, two and a half to three years, concurrently, we will be able to co nstruct the ships, the number or something on that side, sir?
Yes. Thank you, Niraj. At the outset, P‐17 Alpha was a project which we had taken on with complete passion. Because for us this project is totally different and special, because while we have c onstructed frigates earlier also, they were much smaller frigates. This was the first platform that has got gas turbine propulsion to be built by GRSE and the biggest and most complex defense platform. So, it is indeed a matter of great pride for us that we could deliver this ahead of s chedule. So, that ahead of schedule means a lot to us because for first‐time attempt to deliver with quality and in ahead of schedule is something which all of us should be proud of. And thank you for your compliments. Coming to the shipbuilding capacity, what we had done so far. As you rightly said, we have increased the capacity from 20 to 24 to 28 and no w targeting 32 by the next year. This has not come easy. We have done regular capital infusion. At the same time, optimal infusion to revamp some of our facilities, convert some of our facilities. But then we realized that what we have, let us take 30 next ye ar, still would not be adequate to meet the potential that is available, or tap the potential that is available in the market, especially with the European clients now looking at India as a shipbuilding destination. That's why we thought and decided to move in for acquiring more land and facilities, create fa cilities. Now before I come to the Pipavav question that you asked, what our target is, within the next four years, that means by 2029, we intend ramping up our shipbuilding capacity to 40. So, from 30 to 40 is what we are targeting. And there, the 30‐acre la nd that we have identified would surface for around six ships, let us say. And the greenfield facility would not be fully ready by then. But for partial readiness, we should be able to construct around four ships. So, all put together, we are targeting around 40 ships in the next five ye ars. Coming to our affair or the association with Pipavav, it's an MOU for construction, collaboration towards construction of larger platforms. Currently, the capacity that we have is for construction of vessels up to 200‐plus meters. And some of the offers available in the market, we real ized there for platforms well beyond this particular size. So, we thought that we should have a collaboration with the yard has got that kind of facility. And discussions are in progress, and we are very confident that in the coming years, we could translate this MOU into a couple of order s. Thank you.
Thank you, sir. Thank you very much for the answers. Thanks.
Ladies and gentlemen, as there are no further questions, I would now hand the conference over to Commodore P.R. Hari for closing comments.
Thank you, Ryan, thank you Gaurav from Con cept IR and thank you all for participating in this conference call and showing interest in our company, as always. And considering that we have not had too many questions this time, and I presume my analysts and investor friends are happy with what we have done. And I conclude th e session now. Jai Hind. Thank you.
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