Ladies and gentlemen, good day and welcome to GE T &D India Limited Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen only mode and there will be an opportunity for you to ask question after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during the conference call, please signal an operator by pressing ‘*’ then ‘0’ on your touchtone phone. Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Ms. Tanvi Gupta f rom GE T&D India Limited. Thank you and over to you, ma'am.
FY2024 Q2
Thank you, sir. Good evening, everyone. We welcome you all to the GE T&D India Limited Earnings Call for the 2nd Quarter and Half-Year of financial year ending 2023-24. I am Tanvi Gupta from GE T&D India Finance and Industry Relationship team. We are delighted to have you all here on this call. During the call, we will discuss the company's financial performance including operational highlights. We will share the key updates and we will address the questions that you have any. Before we begin, I would like to highlight a few imp ortant notes for today's call. Firstly, as we just have declared the results for the 2nd Quarter and Half-Year of the financial year 2024, the said results are now available on our company website. Further, we have also prepared an analyst presentation for the quarter, which will be under discussion during the call. The said presentation we have already emailed to you and is also available on our company's website. Also, I would like to take a moment to remind everyone that today's discussion may contain few forward-looking statements which are subject to ris k and uncertainties. These statements are based on our current expectations and actual results may differ materially from those expressed or implied. We encourage you to refer to our public filings and disclosures for a comprehensive understanding of the factors that could impact our future performance. With this, now let me introduce the GE T&D India ma nagement team available on this call. During the call, we will be joined by Mr. Sandeep Z anzaria - CEO and MD of the company. Along with him, we are also joined by Mr. Sushil Ku mar – Whole-Time Director and CFO of the company; Mr. Abhishek Srivastava – Head, Busines s Operations; Mr. Anshul Madaan - Communications Leader, and Ms. Anupriya Garg - Compa ny Secretary of GE T&D India Limited. We will be having a detailed question and answer se ssion towards the end of the presentation where you can ask your questions and seek clarification on any topic of your interest. Thank you once again for joining us today. We appreciate your continuous support and trust in GE T&D India Limited. Now, I will hand over the call to Sa ndeep for his opening remarks. Over to you, Sandeep.
Thanks, Tanvi. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for joining us today. I hope you and your loved ones are doing well. Wishing you a H appy Diwali in advance. Welcome to the quarterly call for discussion on the results of Q2 of Financial Year ‘23-24. I will be sharing the top highlights, and subsequent to that, my other te am members will take you through the numbers and other operational details. Starting with orders, we are excited to share that continued surge in our order book for Q2 driven by India's energy transition need and the governmen t's focus on the renewable energy scheme. We secured orders worth 11 billion INR compared to a n approximately 5 billion INR in the corresponding quarter of the previous financial yea r registering a growth of more than 100% year-on-year. With this, our backlog at the end of the quarter is quite healthy and has improved from Indian Rs. 37 billion to Rs. 43 billion. While growth is a testament to our capacity to meet the evolving needs of India's power market, a note what we highlight here is that we have received growth in orders in all of our segments, w hich is like projects, high voltage products, that is GIS, AIS products, power transformers, and also grid automation. This increase in our order reinforces our position as one of the market leaders in the segment. Apart from our regular inflow of orders from export market, we have received the 225 kV GIS supply order from Senegal. These orders not only de monstrate the trust our customers place in us, but also highlight our ability to deliver high quality, reliable grid equipment that are critical to the strengthening of India's transmission infrastructure. Our sales almost remain flat as same as in the corresponding quarter of the previous financial year at about 7 billion INR, but you will note a significant increase in our profit before ta x of approximately Indian Rs. 503 million compared to Indian Rs. 101 million for the corresponding Q2 of FY22-23 and INR 889 Million for H1 23-24 against INR 203 Million for H1 22-23. This achievement can be attributed to the service strategy initiatives aligned with the best practices. Firstly, our continuous focus on adapting a lean mi ndset and implementing operational efficiencies has allowed us to streamline our proce sses and optimize resource allocation. Additionally, our unwavering commitment to enhance our execution capabilities has translated into improved cost management ultimately strengthening our bottom-line. Another highlight was that our net debt as of the q uarter ending September 2023 stands as 114 million Indian INR, making a reduction of more than 1 billion compared to June 2023 and a reduction of Rs. 1.6 billion compared to March ‘23. I would like to stress that cash remains our key focus in all of our business processes. The accomplishment of this quarter not only highlights our expertise, but also, showcase our ability to provide innovative solutions that meets evolving demands of India's energy landscape. At GE T&D, we take pride in being at the forefront of this transformative journey and we look forward to a fut ure where we recognize that the energy sector is evolving at an unprecedented space and ou r strategy is closely aligned with India's national goals and global trends. As we move forwar d, our strategic focus remained firmly centered on driving innovation, efficiency and reli ability in India's rapidly evolving energy landscape. We are dedicated to co-creating a sustainable and resilient energy future for India and eagerly anticipate the exciting opportunities that lie ahead. Thank you and now I invite Abhishek, our Project Business Head to share further details in operational highlight. Abhishek!
So, thanks, Sandeep. Good evening to all. So, I wi ll take you all through the key operational success that we have achieved in the 2nd Quarter of the financial year. So, we added the four key substations to the Indian transmission network. The first one was UPPTCL Sahupuri, which is a 220 kV GIS built in the city of Varanasi and serving the close by area and vicinity. The second was the Warora Kurnool Transmission Limi ted Substation Project in which we commissioned two key substations -one was at Warangal and other one at Chilakaluripeta . This was a very critical scheme, additional interconnect ing link which was formed to import power into the southern region from western region. These are 765 x 400 kV AIS substations and set up of these substations scheme has added 3500 MVA of transmission capacity. So, GE executed was building up the substation along with supply of transformer and reactor. So, this is a very key project and if I talk about the criticality of this, this is the largest 765 kV double-circuit TBCB project done in India and it was great for GE to partner with Adani in building up this substation. And these are seen a lot of challenging times. So, finally, we commissioned two key substations in this. And the fourth one was KSEB Shornur, in which we se t up a 110 kV GIS substation for supplying power to the district of Palakkad. So, these are a few of the key highlights operational success, wherein we commissioned the substation and handed over these substations to the utilities. So, with this, I hand over to Sushil to take us through further details.
Thanks, Abhishek. Good evening, everyone. Wish you a very Happy Diwali. Sandeep talked about our strong financial performance in his beginning speech. I will be taking a few pages on our financial performance to make a deep dive on some of the key numbers that we delivered in this quarter. First, on the page 5 of the investor presentation, talking about orders, we have delivered more than 100% growth compared to the 2nd Quarter of the last financial year. So, in the last year, we had delivered about INR 5 billion of orders, but this year, in the 2nd Quarter, we have about INR 10.8 billion of orders. This growth is across the board, across all our business segments, and has been quite diverse in nature, meaning we have recei ved orders from private customers, government customers, we have received orders from the export markets, we have received orders from the EPC customers and for various business lines. The details of the projects are given in the presen tation. I will not repeat them, but just wanted to highlight that it is a very strong order growth versus last year across the board. Just one more clarification that we recently made stock exchange declaration of receiving 5 billion order. That order achievement is for the month of October. So, it is not a part of the numbers that we are presenting today. That will be counted as order booking in quarter 3 of the financial year. Now, talking about the P&L performance in the next page, while the revenues remain flat at around INR7 billion for the quarter, we saw a signi ficant improvement in our operations with the initiatives taken in the last few years as Sandeep highlighted, which included areas like lean, productivity improvement, changing the mix of order s, taking the secure orders with better terms, and so on, all those initiatives have helped us to achieve our EBITDA of about 10% to the extent of INR 698 million in the quarter, repres enting more than 100% increase versus last year. So, the EBITDA has gone up by two times versus the last year. The same improvement has flown to the profit before tax. We achieved about INR 503 million of profit before tax which is almost 5x of the quarter 2 performance in the last financial year. At the same time, Sandeep highlighted our net debt coming significantly down. Last year, quarter 2, we had about INR 3.6 billion in outstanding debt and we have made a significant progress in last one year. We have repaid most of the debt and we are at around breakeven, close to a breakeven debt situation. We have about INR140 million of debt as of end of September. It is a very improved liquidity position versus last one year, we have made significant progress. Similar improvement across the board on H1 performa nce; H1, the revenues were INR 14 billion, higher by 9% versus the last year H1. EBITD A at INR 1.3 billion, again 2x of the last year performance. Profit before tax is around INR 889 million, 4x of the profit before tax in the last year, first half. So we made a significant progress. Moving to the next page where we have given the spl it of our order booking revenue between domestic and export segment. Out of the 10.8 billion INR orders that we booked in the current financial year Q2, we have 24% of the orders coming from the export market and about 76% orders coming from domestic market. On the revenue side, 29% of the revenue is from the export segment and 71% revenue from the domestic market. INR 43 billion orders in hand have about 75% of the orders from the private segment customers, 15% of the orders from the central utility and PSU, and 10% of the orders in hand from the sta te utilities. So, this is overall the quarter 2 number and now we will be happy to answer your questions.
Thank you very much. We will now begin the questio n-and-answer session. First question is from the line of Renu Baid Pugalia from IIFL Securities. Please proceed.
My first question is if you look on the execution side, are there any headwinds in the domestic market in terms of stepping up the execution run ra te or it is more to go in terms of the entire supply chain and the project timelines?
Can you share some color in terms of the broad reve nue mix for the current quarter in terms of products, projects, automation solutions because th at is clearly reflected in the gross margin profile that is reported this quarter?
So, we have about 12% of the revenue coming from t he services and software business put together, Rest, 88% between the product and project business.
Secondly, if we see a pretty impressive improvemen t in the working capital and reduction of debt on books, to what extent we think this improve ment is sustainable and is it also a function of the set up an order that we see for the cycle of advances and the entire working capital cycle and cash conversion cycle has seen a pickup in terms of improvement on books?
Yes, so it is a factor of all the improvement acti ons that we have taken meaning, advances, yes, if we look at the financial statements around in the INR 1.6 billion cash that we have generated in the first half, around INR 0.5 billion or about I NR 50 crores is coming from the down payments that we have received on the new order. The rest equipment is mostly from the actions across the board, be it on account of realization o f past dues or trade receivables, reduction in the inventory through to be lean initiatives, and also making sure as you have been talking about in our conference call for last many quarters, we t alked about selectivity of the order which means secured payment terms, the payment terms with lesser credit period and so on. So, that means the profit which we realize is also getting c onverted into cash. So, cash remission is a combination of profit converted to cash plus working capital improvement across the board.
And lastly, Sandeep, if you can also share some in puts as in we have been talking pretty positive in terms of the domestic order pipeline improving o n a strong note, the GEC projects coming through on exports also picking up, so any comments in terms of how the order pipeline is looking for the next 6 to 12 months? And do we perceive any slowdown in the early part of the next 6 years because of the election?
I think whatever run rate we are maintaining, we a re looking at a quite healthy growth or sustainable order intake pipeline, at least from next 6 to 12 months, Renu. That will be, because GEC projects and all, of course, now they have start ed coming up at a regular interval, and the finalization is also happening, but with the visibility, at least, we are pretty confident of next 12 months, yes, we will be able to maintain the run rate.
Coming back to your first question on the split of revenue between project and product, so around 60% to 65% of the revenue are from the produ ct business, 20% to 25% of the revenue from the project business, and the rest revenue is from the services and software business.
My first question is around the operating margins per se, so while there is a significant operating leverage that seems to be kicking in and helping our net profitability quarter-on-quarter, what is the sustainable margin in terms of EBITDA margin we are looking at or what is our healthy EBITDA margin per se?
So, the current gross profit of around 36%-37% and 10% EBITDA is already healthy if we compare with the past many years of performance. Ho wever, having said that, management always endeavored to perform better, and this can h ave multiple ways of improvement, first, targeting better profitability in the orders, then many execution initiatives that Sandeep talked about including lean productivity, efficiency, and so on and last couple of actions being, first of all, the control over fixed expenses of the structu re cost and the working capital improvement which then helps to save the financial cost. So, we will continue to work on the improvement as the management on these numbers.
So, we see going this into double digits, we expec t more improvement on this front in quarters to come, you are saying?
No, I am not giving a forward-looking guidance. Wh at I am saying is that our endeavor is to always improve, but the quarter-on-quarter number w ill always depend on the mix of project, production and services. We will continue to work on this direction.
And my second question is around the order book, w hile our order book seems to be very healthy, around Rs. 4,000-Rs. 4,500 crores of orders pending, any particular number that we are looking at in executing over the period of the next 12 months?
So, basically, what we do is that we keep on asses sing the customer requirement in terms of what are the delivery needs and also that what kind of capacities we have, do we have the slot for that and accordingly we take the order. So, if you reall y look at our run rate, I think we are looking at an order intake of about close to Rs. 1,000 crore s, so eventually the run rate which needs to go in few quarters when it gets stabilized, again, depending on the product and project mix and all, will be somewhere near that number. That is the expectation.
Thank you. We have our next follow-up question fro m the line of Mr. Renu Baid Pugaliya from IIFL Securities. Please proceed.
Sir, if you look at this quarterly run rate of Rs. 1,000 crores of inflows being sustainable and October again, we have a large order of Rs. 500 crores announced in addition to the base orders as we continue, do you think sometimes going ahead in the next fiscal year, we may start feeling a pinch on the capacity side and are we there in th e capacity expansion plan, so what are the current utilization levels and you think in the nex t 12-18 months, if the new order flow momentum sustains, will that trigger some capacity debottlenecking in certain product lines, etc?
So, Renu, we keep on analyzing that in which segmen t, the orders are coming and then how these capacities can be debottlenecked and of cours e, one of the main principle of lean is also that how to debottleneck and how to improve the pro ductivity. So, it is basically kind of a mindset change also and under the global directive, we keep on working on that. Depending upon the situation, yes, we will be looking into the timeframe and also, we are also trying to see that which capacities are, like which area in the m arket is something where you need to target more in terms of improving the margins and improving the margin profile.
So, for instance, suppose the transformer segment of the market, the domestic market is already tight in terms of capacities and we were also expecting larger export orders on this side, do you think at least within the product business line, tr ansformer segment could see some capacity enhancement?
So, it will be very difficult to tell now, but yes , in case if we face such a constraint, definitely that is something we look forward to.
And secondly, can you also share certain updates i n terms of progress on the HVDC project, Badla has also seen price-based submission happening there, so where are we in terms of project timelines? Do we expect any delays? And also, on the export opportunity on the HVDC products, how are those developments shaping up?
So, for Badla as you know, the bidding has already started for the developers. Of course, Badla being such a large project requires a huge amount of system studies and also creating a complete bid of an HVDC takes time. So, we are working with t wo developers who are there and also regarding the export market, yes, definitely we keep on analyzing with our global teams because for HVDC and all those applications, it is ultimatel y the acceptance of the international customers of our local factories is also a critical point. So, based on that, we will keep on analyzing and wherever it is beneficial for the com pany, those orders will be targeted and will be taken.
Thank you. Next question is from the line of Janak Lotwala, an Individual Investor. Please proceed.
I have a follow up question around the order book business environment that you are operating in, again, while we have a very strong and healthy order book and there are a lot of tailwinds in the business, if you were to describe what is it, certain 3-4 top factors that can give key sources of risk to the execution over the next 12-24 months , what can be the 3-4 areas of uncertainties or risks that we have to keep in mind as investors?
So, I think today one of the biggest risks what we see in today's environment based on our experience of last 1-2 years is geopolitical factors, for example, the Russia-Ukraine war, it kind of disrupted the whole supply chain in a very big w ay. So, that is one area where we keep on constantly monitoring because that is something whi ch can impact to a great extent the whole supply chain situation. So, that is one and second, also for many of our product on subcomponent side, we are also dependent on single source suppli ers. So, that also the company is working to develop alternate sources and try to see that we de-risk ourselves from any such situation where that supplier is not able to perform. And apart fro m that, also the way the renewable market is now growing and along with that, the private transm ission is growing. So, like in the power generation segment, there was a time when a lot of people entered and then there was a challenge on the financial side. So, we try and as Sushil said that we try to make a proper assessment and ensure that with companies which we are entering in to and doing business are very robust and under a set of conditions which clearly minimizes the risk for us.
So, similar to what you mentioned about sourcing f rom single suppliers, do we have any customer concentration risk as well, what are the r evenues that our top 5-10 customers are contributing to and are there any measures on that front? What is our customer profile look like in terms of revenue concentration?
So, if I tell you that we don't have this type of a situation for us because as I think you would have seen the presentation also, we have kind of very diversified portfolio of customers. So, like we are doing with generating companies, we are doing with EPC companies, we are doing with private transmission companies, we are doing part w ith state utilities and industry also, for example, Hindalco and Reliance of the world. So, it is that we have a very diversified portfolio in terms of customers. So, today we don't have any customer where we are dependent like on one customer we are dependent for 25%-30% of our revenue. We don't have any such customer in our portfolio.
Thank you. Next question is from the line of Abhij eet from YES Securities. Please proceed.
So, my question is on the supply demand balance fr om a slightly longer-term perspective, we have seen demand spurt in the last 2-3 quarters, we have seen increased tendering activity, increased tendering pipeline pertaining to GEC, so the demand is picking up and in line with that, a lot of peers have put up capacities in transformers, switchgear, etc., so going forward, let us say, from a perspective of 2-3 years, so when do you see these capacities catching up with the demand and therefore having an impact on pricing an d margins? So, right now we are in the cycle of expanding margins, I am sure the bidding margins are also pretty attractive in this cycle, but sir, since a lot of players are expanding their capacities, how can we look at this scenario going forward in the next 2-3 years?
So, I think going forward, when we look at 2-3 yea rs, of course, we cannot create like, suddenly we cannot decide, for example, when we look at GEC corridors, etc., at one point of time, GEC corridors were taking more than one year for decisi on making. So, first we have to also see the sustainability of GEC corridor at a regular interval of ordering that. That is one thing what we have to have that confidence. That is the first asp ect. Second also, when we try to build up a capacity, it is not something which can be built in like 6-8 months’ time. So, we also have to see the kind of new capacities building up, how much ti me it takes and also it is not only the capacities which have to be built up, but also you have to see that at the backend the supply chain, how you are comfortable with that supply chain in that specific product to support you in terms of those deliveries. That is the second factor. Third and the most important thing, Abhijeet is that we keep on analyzing this thing and then th ere are a lot of factors how you debottleneck your capacities and try to increase on an increment al basis. So, that is a constant endeavor we keep on doing and in this scenario also, at least that is what will be the focus of the company.
Sir, if you can point out what is the current capa city utilization for us in the higher kV category like 765 kV? Is it possible to quantify that?
It is very difficult to quantify Abhijeet, but I w ould only put it as like pretty high.
You are saying pretty high.
Yes.
And secondly, sir, on the order book from the stat e side, so last 4-5 quarters, sequentially, I have seen the state order book decline quarter-on-quarte r, now it is somewhere around Rs. 400 odd crores, so is this something a conscious decision that we are going slow on state orders because of certain issues that we are facing?
Yes, Abhijeet, we had taken a conscious decision t o move from state and to concentrate more on private sector because of the flexibility it off ers and so state is more like L1 bidding reverse auction and other things, so therefore the conscious decision was made to shift more from state towards more from private and I think the improveme nt in results what we have seen is one of the actions that was taken and resulted into this results.
Thank you. Next question is from the line of Harsh it Kapadia from Elara Capital. Please proceed.
Sir, just a clarification on HVDC, so what CA has a pproved is of Rs. 13,200 crores as a total project size for the Badla part, now how much would be the HVDC portion within that and what would be the EPC portion, and will it be as given to a single company or could there be a multiple companies who would be winning it and if you can hi ghlight how could be the L1 or L2 ratio would be?
So, Harshit, first of all, we are not aware how CE A has reached that budget, so probably that is for them to answer. But CEA has taken out this tender on TBCB route. So, on TBCB route, when it will be awarded, it will be awarded to the devel oper and the scope of developer will be from acquiring land to building and commissioning the pr oject and running the project which its showing for 35 years including building the transmi ssion line. So, this depends upon which developer wins because that developer, for example, a developer X to developer Y, may have a different model of procurement like somebody can sa y that if the civil work they will do, somebody might split line into four packages, someb ody might split line into two parts, somebody can give the HVDC terminal without construc tion, somebody can give HVDC terminal with construction, so this is the kind of an individual strategy of each and every developer. So, it will be very difficult for us to comment on that.
Any understanding on what is the cost of let us sa y an HVDC line, HVDC terminal or HVDC substation if it is coming up, any rough understanding would be very helpful, sir?
No it will be too premature because we have just s tarted engaging and some at a very preliminary stage so for such a large project, it is very difficult to make assessment on the price as of now.
And do you expect that every year, there would be one HVDC project which would be coming out for tendering or do you think there will be a span over the next 7 to 8 years? It won't be over every year.
I think for the next 3 to 4 years, yes, definitely there will be one every year.
And given that Europe is also looking in HVDC pipel ine, do you think the aggression among the companies like GE as well as its competitor wou ld be not so aggressive, would be comparatively much softer or what is your perception over there, sir because the pipeline is better in India as well as abroad and players are very handful?
This is too early to discuss the bidding strategy and on a public forum, these things cannot be disclosed, and it will be very difficult to comment on what is going to be the competitive strategy as well.
And sir, secondly on your strategy on, going more towards private, so is there a number that you have in mind that we want certain amount of busines s coming from private for the transformer side, right now what is the ratio and what is your target, sir?
I will not use the word private, but I will say th at what we are today looking forward to is more, for example, customers where you have assured payme nt, where you have timely payment coming, where the processes are very well aligned. So, if I look at, for example, Power Grid Corporation, they are like one of the best paymaster s with a very defined and a transparent process. So, I think it is not between a private or a public, it is basically more that where the process and payments do come on much faster timelines.
Thank you. Next question is from the line of Shyam Maheshwari from Aditya Birla Mutual Fund. Please proceed.
If there will be any update, it will be known thro ugh, I think we will be communicating. So, as of today, there is no update.
We have taken one approval for large order and tha t is still under negotiation. It has not yet finalized.
Thank you. Next question is from the line of Tanay Rasal from Philip Capital. Please go ahead.
I just got two questions. The first question, like in the current scenario, are you seeing any competition from the Chinese players? Are there any products been dumped from the Chinese players as such?
No, we are not.
So, what will be your market share presently for t he Chinese players in transformers like products?
I think it would be very less because now at least in TBCB and other utility segment, Chinese are not allowed to participate. So, it will be very minuscule.
Sir, and given the integration of the renewable wi ll be in the large scale now, so how do you see the STATCOM opportunity? How big is that opportunity?
So, STATCOM we see as a big opportunity because ren ewable integration definitely is going to require a lot of STATCOM projects, particularly where the large renewable projects are getting connected. Simply seeing one or two projects which have got finalized, I think going forward, maybe after kind of 6 months, 8 months’ timeframe, we will see a much larger volume of STATCOMs getting finalized.
And sir, like if you look at the orders you have f rom the PGCIL, so what are the areas that you are getting the orders from the PGCIL and how big that package can be from PGCIL?
So, we are getting orders from PGCIL, like for exa mple, we have got orders for transformers, we have got reactors for projects, we have got one for building a 765 kV GIS substation, one for building a 132 kV GIS substation. So, it is basically multiple products and then from the regions we keep on getting orders for products as well. So, it is multiple, and it depends upon what kind of requirements, it can be from Rs. 1 crore to Rs. 200 crores, anything.
Sir, my question is around the order book particip ation, when we decide to bid for a certain business or participate for a certain order or a business, first what is our hit rate and second what is our right to win that order? What differentiates our offering for us from our competition?
So, I think generally it is very difficult to defi ne a hit rate primarily because we have multiple lines of businesses and for example, we might sell a relay also, we might sell control relay, panel also, SCADA also, breaker also, project also, transformer also, so it is very difficult. That is one thing because different products, different systems have different competition, different number of players. So, it is very difficult to capture the hit rate. Second thing again, as I said that it is very difficult to also tell that what is our entitlement to win that order, but like for example, when you go to few utilities, there some utilities will have L1 pricing, some utilities will have kind of a reverse auction, some EPC customers, it is on nego tiated basis, at some places it is a pre-bid agreement also like with an EPC player we will say that okay this is a pre-bid agreement, for this scope, if you win, I will be with you. So, thi s is basically a different market strategy depending upon different market, different customer , different product, so it is a very dynamic evolving situation. So, it is very difficult to explain it like this is the one that which defines that with this bullet we will be able to achieve all our objectives.
Thank you. As there are no further questions from the participants, I now hand the conference over to Ms. Tanvi Gupta for closing comments.
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