Mtar Technologies Limited

FY2027 Q1

2026-07-30 Transcript PDF
Moderator

Thank you very much. We will now begin the question-and-answer se ssion. The first question comes from the line of Mohit Kumar from ICICI Securities. Please go ahead.

ICICI Securities

Yes. Good morning, sir, and congratulations on a very good quarte r. My first question is, sir, can you help us with the tentative execution timelines for the order which were announced today, which is 31 billion? Is it everything of this will get executed in FY28 and FY29 and nothing would be executed in FY27? Is that a fair expectation?

Srinivas Reddy

Yes, I mean, the orders what we received today, the execution timeline is for next year. I mean, the demand is lot more, and it all depends on how soon we can implement our expansion plan and then take it forward. So, the sooner we do, and the requirement is obviously for next financial year, but we have to see how soon we can implement our expansion plan and ramp-up plan for next year, which we are targeting that, and let's see how it goes.

ICICI Securities

Understood, sir. My second question is, sir, do you expect separate pac kage for nuclear power plant of Mahi Banswara for fuel machining system where we can participate directly or are you expecting to participate through the EPC vendors?

Srinivas Reddy

No, that is through EPC vendors. So, we are qualified for number of projects as you have seen in Kaiga 5 & 6. So, we expect a good opportunity from this. Kaiga 5 & 6 is two reactors, and these are four reactors. And MTAR's participation in this project will be much higher than what we can expect from Kaiga 5 & 6 as well.

ICICI Securities

Oh, understood, sir. That's helpful. My last question, sir, can you help with the execution timelines for the existing nuclear order for Kaiga 5 & 6 and how big is the refurbishment order which you're expecting in this quarter?

Srinivas Reddy

See, the refurbishment orders overall would be about around 200-pl us crores that we need to do for various reactors. We're expecting another INR130 crores-INR140 crores o f orders coming in in this quarter. And then, obviously, we have a lot on our plate in term s of the maximum

orders, which will be around close to INR800 crores in nuclear division itse lf, which never happened in the history of this company in the past. And plus, the kind of order pipeline that we can see moving forward as well with the new projects coming in and the government's plan to move into much highe r gigawatt range, we expect this momentum to continue over the years, and there will not be any c yclical issues as compared in the past, earlier I'm talking about 5-10 years back, but we would se e the momentum going forward as well.

ICICI Securities

And the execution timelines for the existing order, sir?

Srinivas Reddy

So, for the refurbishment reactors, it is within 2 years. And for Kaiga 5 & 6, the execution timelines range from 1 year to 3 years, 3, 3 and a half years.

ICICI Securities

Understood, sir. Thank you and all the best, sir. Thank you.

Moderator

We take the next question from the line of Balasubramanian from Arihant Ca pital. Please go ahead.

Balasubramanian

Good morning, sir. Thank you so much for the opportunity. Congratulations for good set of numbers. Sir, on the working capital side, we have seen a significan t improvement in terms of inventory days also reduced from 208 to 145. Receivables also redu ced 140 to 82. Just want to understand, this dramatic reduction in days is very much impressive. So, like how do you understand in this financial year as well as next year? And given it's a diverse project portfolio, some of them are long-cycle, some of the m are short-cycle. So, what are the specific initiatives drive this improvement, and how do you unde rstand in the coming years?

Gunneswara Rao

Yes, I'll take up this question. So, we have negotiated better terms with some of our customers as far as commercial terms is consideration. And also, our receivable days are good compared to the last quarter. We were able to negotiate some better terms. One is a commercial term, also the credit period we negotiated. Some of the credit terms are after reach ing the customer premises. So, we were able to deliver at a faster pace so that we can able to receive the money. And having said that, our target is for this year is around 100 days we are targeting to reach that, including keeping consideration of all long-cycle projects into consideration. Apart from this, we also are monitoring every element of the working capital like current assets, we are targeting to generate GST refund of almost INR70 crores per year . So, so that cash flows will be better, cash flow from operations better and all. We wanted to sustain these levels constantly negotiating better terms with the both existing customers and also from the new customer. So, that's how we can able to do. Everything is done it organically, and there is a possibility of doing inorganically also , but we don't want to do at the cost of margins. So, the inorganically also we can reduce, but it will be the costlier.

We don't want to affect the margins in the company. As long as it is margins are better and everything is good, then only we can take any of the actions, b ut whatever we have done is organically we are able to reduce now. I hope I clarified your question.

Balasubramanian

Yes, sir. Sir, my last question, sir, I think we have an order book of nea rly INR5,100-plus crores, and today morning around INR3,100 crores. So, I think if you' re having if you want to execute more order book, obviously, we need to have kind of facilities and equipment. Earlier, you guided a capex. Is there any reiteration in that capex, e specially for Clean Energy side? And if you could like give the update of oil and gas and Cle an Energy Phase 2 for the capex perspective, and how much capex we have incurred in Q1, sir?

Gunneswara Rao

See, total INR80 crores capex is capitalized, but it is not spent in th is quarter. It is actually in the form of capital work-in-progress, and it became capitalized now. For quarter 1, we might h ave spent around INR30 crores -INR35 crores only capex, but overall INR80 c rores which is capitalized. But earlier, it was in Capital WIP line item. It's a part of fixed assets only. When it comes to INR5,000 crores order book, what you mentioned, today we have given an incremental, we received that INR3,200 crores. It is not a full order, alrea dy communicated earlier, the incremental order is INR800 crores. So, it is 5,100 plus INR800-plus crores is a total order book as of today. When it comes to the capex plans, as we said earlier in our call, is actually around INR500 crores we have to incur to take the company into the next level. Next yea r guidance we are not giving officially as of today, but we are seeing at least 4-5 times of asset turn over whatever we do, minimum 4 to 5 times of asset turnover we are targeting. And if you look at our debt is today around INR20 crores -INR25 crores only, after adjusting the investments what we have in the company. So, we are very stro ng as far as a balance sheet is concerned and working capital also into consideration, total ac ross all sectors, we are going to spend around INR500 crores, but everything will not spend in this year. It will be spill over to next 1 to 2 quarters of the next financial year. As communicated by our MD, there are Phase 1, Phase 2, Phase 3 targets are there, for which we need to spend money to increase the asset turnover ratio at least 6 times whatever we spend in the form of capex.

Balasubramanian

Got it, sir. Thank you.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Gaurav Nagori from Avendus Spark. Please go ahead.

Avendus Spark

Thanks for the opportunity. Continuing the last participant's question , given that you are seeing a very strong demand for the in the fuel cell segment, are you p lanning the capacity expansion beyond the 20,000 hot boxes capacity that's already guided? That's question number one. And secondly, if you can elaborate a little bit more on this new product revenue which has gone to almost INR100 crores, almost 50% of the Clean Energy segment revenue run rate?

Srinivas Reddy

Yeah. So, basically, Gaurav, as I mentioned earlier, we are go ing to Phase 2 is an expansion [inaudible 29 28] should be ready by September-October for fuel cells, a nd Phase 3 is going to be a mutifold expansion plan. I can't specify the numbers because of the NDA being signed, but it's going to be a multifold expansion plan, which will be ready b y March of 2027, in all probability. So, there will be a ramp-up, which is being organized, training program is being done right away to gear up to these. One is the capacity and one is the ramp-up plan, so both are being addressed. So, it's going to be a massive multifold expansion plan, which is in place because of a very strong demand as you have seen that even today order inflows on a c onsistent basis. And moving forward as well, we see a very strong roadmap in all these sectors mov ing forward. And what was the second question, Gaurav?

Avendus Spark

Yeah, so on this first question only, so when you say March '27 tim eline, is it the commissioning by March '27 or you would be starting from March '27, if you can just clarify on that one, sir?

Srinivas Reddy

It's going to be commissioning by March '27, the multifold ex pansion plan, and then we move on to the ramp-up plan afterwards from April onwards.

Srinivas Reddy

But we'll have Phase 2 will be operational by October of this year. Be cause we've already completed our Phase 1 expansion plan in all aspects. It's done already.

Avendus Spark

All right. So, the capex for this year would be upgraded because of this new phase expansion from October to March '27?

Srinivas Reddy

Yes, that's right.

Avendus Spark

All right. The second question was on the new product, which has seen a sharp growth in this quarter. In fact, the run rate now is almost 50% of your the fuel cell segme nt revenue run rate. So, is it just one-off deliveries or this would be the run rate continuing from here on, sir?

Srinivas Reddy

No, it's going to continue. It's going to continue to grow. Ac tually, we are going into a We've got a major demand in this product division, and it's going to conti nue to grow more than what it has grown in Q1. Second half would be even stronger than the first half in all these segments that we are talking about, including the product division.

Avendus Spark

And this new product segment, I'm assuming, is the product which g oes into this fuel cell assembly only, other than the hot box?

Srinivas Reddy

No, not necessarily. We have the other products as well. We are d oing extremely well in ball screws where we have lot of export orders as well, and we are seeing a major contract with one of the MNCs to supply ball screws for them for the aerospace division. So, lot of work has been done over the past couple of years to get qualified for all this, and now you're seeing those results moving forward. It's a combination of everything.

Avendus Spark

Understood. Just last question again on the working capital where we' ve seen receivables kind of coming down from 140 to 80. Our understanding is that most of this high receivable days is because of the transit time that you have, and then the recove ry from the client is having about 40-45 days of working capital days. So, if I understood it correctly, this entire decline is because of a better credit terms once the product is delivered at the client site or any other reason?

Srinivas Reddy

No, it's all about better payment terms, credit terms, and various o ther aspects, right? So, that's what it is. Yeah, Gunneswara want to add something.

Gunneswara Rao

we also actually got negotiated better terms with other customers also, and weekly monitoring is in place and so various actions, not only that. Everything culminated into this reduction.

Srinivas Reddy

So, the end of the day, Gaurav, the idea is to bring down worki ng capital days would be like -- we'll be sustaining it, we are at 59-60 days right now, but we'll be b elow 100 days for the year, so that's what the CFO has mentioned earlier.

Avendus Spark

Okay. I mean, the way to look at is the receivables inventory day s which used to be about 340 days, which is now down to about 220, so you're saying that both th e receivable plus inventory days would sustain around 200-220 days, and the working capital at 100 days?

Gunneswara Rao

Yeah, that's what our target is, let us see.

Avendus Spark

All right. Thank you. That's it from my side.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Sumant Kumar from Motilal Oswal Financial Services. Please go ahead.

Motilal Oswal Financial Services

Yeah, hi. My question is, our key client has increased their reven ue guidance by 10% to 15%. So, assuming that, can we say whatever the guidance we have give n 80% plus-minus 5% there is a higher possibility to upgrade this in the coming quarter?

Srinivas Reddy

Sumant, it's like this. I've already said that in my earnings call speech that definitely we have given a certain guidance, which we are very confident of, and we'll definitely do better than that. So, probably that's what I would say right now. Probably we'll see by end of next quarter how it goes and then we'll come back to you on that.

Motilal Oswal Financial Services

Okay. And for this civil nuclear power segment, our order book e xecution is still is not picking. So, when can we expect this execution is going to happen, which year?

Srinivas Reddy

In this year, Sumant. Second half of this year, the execution will c ommence, and it will continue to grow from there on. That's why I clearly said that we are doing certain long-cycle projects right now, and the executions will start from second half of this year, and it will continue to grow from there on.

Srinivas Reddy

Overall, it's for 3, 3 and a half years. Some of the orders are within 2 y ears. Overall, we have to execute everything, we have roughly around INR800 crores, let's say, in cluding the one which we are supposed to get where we are declared L1. We are supposed to execute all this within the next 3 years.

Motilal Oswal Financial Services

Okay, okay. Thank you so much. Thank you.

Gunneswara Rao

So, as of today, we have INR684 crores of orders, and what we are expecting is INR130 crores, so with that, it is around INR815 crores, that was mentioned by our MD around INR800 crores in the last question also. So, that is we are going to, I think we are very confident we'll get in this quarter.

Sumanth Kumar

Okay. Okay, thank you so much.

Moderator

Thank you. We have the next question from the line of Vipraw Sriv astava from PhillipCapital. Please go ahead.

Vipraw Srivastava

Hi, sir. Good morning. Just quickly on the capex side. So, you have guided for INR500 crores of capex for next couple of years. Out of this, sir, how much will be for non-clean energy segments out of this INR500 crores?

Gunneswara Rao

So, it will be I think I answered that, right? 70-30 ratio, but it will b e in the 70-30%.

Vipraw Srivastava

So, 30% is for non-clean energy segments, right?

Gunneswara Rao

Yes, yes.

Vipraw Srivastava

Okay, so around INR150 crores.

Gunneswara Rao

Even within the clean energy also, some parts can be fungible in o ther sectors also, so which we will use for other sectors also.

Vipraw Srivastava

Right, sir. And, sir, out of this INR500 crores, how much you have alread y incurred in Q1?

Gunneswara Rao

We incurred around INR35 crores of capex in the Q1.

Vipraw Srivastava

INR35 crores, right?

Gunneswara Rao

Yes.

Vipraw Srivastava

And, sir, okay, that's great, sir. And, secondly, on the data center side, where we are obviously, you know, working on first approvals and then will be ramping up. So, exactly what will be doing and firstly, and secondly, sir, what's the current size of the order we are working on as far as data centers are concerned?

Srinivas Reddy

See, data centers, order is about INR45 crores, which we have to exec ute, which we have to do it before March of this year. Right now, the way we're doing the first artic le right now, that's initial first article, which are couple of 2-3 assemblies, and then we go into the major first set of

order, which is about INR45 crores, which we have to execute by March o f this year, or February-March of this year, that's last quarter of this financial year. And the way we are setting up the whole plan is that they have up to eight such major infrastructure requirements, eight sets, year- on-year basis. So, that's where we stand. So, the focus is basically to ensure that we have a dedicated facility for that moving forward to execute that eight sets requirement each year onwards.

Vipraw Srivastava

And, sir, it's for export, right? It's not for domestic consumption?

Srinivas Reddy

No, all this is for export.

Vipraw Srivastava

All this is for export. Thanks, thanks a lot, sir. Thank you.

Moderator

Thank you. We have the next question from the line of Viraj Parekh from Carnelian Asset Management. Please go ahead.

Carnelian Asset Management

Thank you so much for the opportunity, sir. My question, firstly, is on the nuclear segment of ours. You mentioned in the earlier questions that -- and also on your PPT that there are four projects that Mahi Banswara where we'll be bidding. Is it possible for yo u to address the TAM and the kind of opportunity we can get in terms of revenue from these four projects which we'll be bidding for over the next 3, 4, 5 years as and when they open?

Srinivas Reddy

See, basically, today's situation is the tenders have already been flo ated for these four projects, four 700-megawatt reactors. And once they are allotted to the contr actor who is getting it, then MTAR has an opportunity of much more than what we received from Kaiga 5 & 6, because Kaiga 5 & 6 is only two reactors, these are four reactors. And the timeline , I cannot really say, probably it's a process by itself, right? They finalize the tenders and then, so it's a 1-year process, I guess. So, we're already having our plate full in terms of orders, so probably these orders might come in in the next financial year.

Carnelian Asset Management

Okay. And, sir, the other question is, you have a specific slide on role in India's PFBR program and the company's also contributed for this program. So, can you just help us understand that what can be the opportunity size here for us?

Srinivas Reddy

See, the PFBR program was a very long program for us, which we ha ve actually contributed massively for that in terms of the core of the reactors in various major assem blies, which we have done exclusively for IGCAR and Bhavini projects, that's PFBR.(41:23) So, now, since it's achieved the criticality, now, they're looking at setting up -- I think what we've heard is they're going to set up another couple of more reactors, which they've started se nding the details to us. So, the opportunity is very big in that. So, let's see, as and whe n we have more information on that, we'll update all of you on that. But there is a great opportun ity coming forward for that, since they've achieved the criticality right now.

Srinivas Reddy

No, this is directly with the government. For PFBR, it's directly with the gov ernment.

Carnelian Asset Management

So, if you have to, like, understand the pace of the nuclear or the PFBR program, either of them scaling up faster, we would, not in terms of revenue, but in terms of the timelines of things happening faster, PFBR would come ahead of nuclear?

Srinivas Reddy

I'm not too sure about that. See, PFBR will definitely come forward because they've achieved criticality and it's a great achievement by the Government of India t o do that. We have contributed a lot for that. It's kind of part of our nuclear cycle to use th e thorium resources that we have. All this is for civil generation, power requirements, right? So, obviously, the next step is taking right now in terms of moving forward with the next, so let's see how soon they come up with that.

Carnelian Asset Management

Understood. And, sir, this is the last question. I think the previous partic ipant asked upon it, the products and other sectors where we are supplying certain components which are import substitutes and we also have certain export orders here. Is it possible to elaborate if certain end usage and the products what we are making which are critical and a lso the end usage of these industries, it mainly comes from the point of view of understanding the sustainability of this vertical for our business, given that it's scaled up so significantly in Q1?

Srinivas Reddy

Yeah, so the sustainability, it's going to sustain and even do bette r moving forward. So, it's a combination of aerospace, defense, clean energy, it's a combination of all those products that we have developed over the years, and it's going to sustain and do better, actually, quarter-on-quarter basis. That's what we are looking at there.

Carnelian Asset Management

So, like in aerospace, once we get our first articles approved, is there the similar nature of this business that we are getting certain first articles approved and then winning long-term orders?

Srinivas Reddy

That's exactly what I have said. See, as the CFO also mentioned earlier, see, basically, what you have seen, we have done a lot of work in the last couple of years i n order to establish the first articles, the infrastructure, getting qualified for aerospace, and getting the right customers, and our quality getting approved very well by all these customers. So, we've already moved into the volume production for majority of the first articles, and some a re in the process. So, it's an ongoing process. So, what you're seeing the numbers right now is an effort of which was done over the last 1.5, 2 years.

Carnelian Asset Management

Understood. Thank you so much, sir. All the very best.

Srinivas Reddy

Thank you.

Moderator

Thank you. We have the next question from the line of Jenish Karia from Union Asset Management. Please go ahead.

Union Asset Management

Yeah. Thank you for the opportunity, and congratulations on a very good set of numbers. So, considering the INR5,500 crores of order book that we have currently, and a very strong outlook on all our segments, incrementally, our revenue will also multifold grow in the coming years. The INR500 crores of capex and the incremental working capital requirement, how do we plan

to fund it? Will it be debt-funded, internal accruals-funded, or will we require some external capital to fund it?

Srinivas Reddy

No, it'll be a combination of internal funding and debt. Th at's what it is.

Union Asset Management

Understood, sir. So, the second question is on the US data center side, so considering we have a large customer there, any on-ground news that you're hearing from in teraction with your customers with regards to delay in the incremental capacity or capex which is being spent on the US data centers? Any delays or slippages you expect in the near term or the medium term?

Srinivas Reddy

See, all this is unwanted noise. I really want to express this very clearly . You have seen how we have progressed as far as MTAR is concerned and how we are moving fo rward and the kind of orders we are receiving even recently as well. So, things are movi ng in the right direction. Absolutely, there is no issue at all.

Union Asset Management

Perfect, sir. That's good to hear. Thank you for addressing the qu estions, and all the best for the future.

Srinivas Reddy

Yeah.

Moderator

Thank you. We have the next question from the line of Rohit Na tarajan from Axis Max Life. Please go ahead.

Rohit Natarajan

Yeah. Thank you for this opportunity. My first question is more to do at a very, you know, longer-term picture perspective. We are given to understand Bloom Fremont capacity, they're looking to expand it all the way to 5 gigawatt. That could technica lly mean something like 77,000-odd hot boxes as such. Even if you exclude the Taiwanese player, the capacity for you, it will probably be they will be asking you to do more than 60,000 hot boxes per year as such. Will you be in a position to do that? And even some picture beyond that, probably they may h ave to increase their capacity as well, given the kind of requirement you have for behind-the-meter solutions globally for all this data centers as such. What is the outlook over there? I understand there is some NDA and maybe you don't want to disclose many things, but you could probably give some, you k now, qualitative indicators as such.

Srinivas Reddy

See, Inaudible :48:25I have already stated earlier in Phase 3 is a m ultifold expansion, which is a multifold expansion of the customer, and I regard I can't get in to the numbers because of the NDA signed, but that's the whole plan, right, to take care of the cu stomer requirements. That's all I can say right now. So, we are on track with everything that what the customer needs.

Rohit Natarajan

Got it. Got it. My second question will be more about the content per platform in defense. What exactly are you offering in Tejas, what will be that value per platform for say let's assume for one aircraft, similarly on the content per platform in content per reactor fo r say nuclear? If you

could give us some numbers to understand how big is the opport unity here and how much you can incrementally make an inroad.

Srinivas Reddy

See, as I mentioned earlier, in defense for Tejas, we are qualified in to the actuator program, which is about INR140 crores to INR150 crores. It's going to go in further than that. That's not the only area. We are working on very niche areas in defense, which we don't discuss in detail. So, we are working on various projects, including various projects in defense as well. So, we are working on number of projects which are we find there is a lot of value add and the criticality involved in those projects. So, these numbers are going to grow for sure. And, for nuclear, our basket, our wallet share is extremely high in terms of these reactors, given by NPCIL and the Department of Atomic Energy. 50 27 In audible We have a 60% to 70% share of orders for these reactors, isn't it, right? So, we are looking at 4 to 6 reactors coming in, so there is a massive plan by the Government of India also moving forward to really ramp up this nuclear energy program, a nd we keep talking about clean energy, but we are really pushing ourselves to expand our capabilities beyond for the requirements that we're seeing, foreseeing in a huge way in the nuclear p rogram, and MTAR is really working towards that in terms of executing these commitments, which are going to come in a big way over the next 2-3 years.

Rohit Natarajan

Understood, sir. Appreciate it. I'll get back in the queue. Thank you . Thank you very much.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Piyush Sevaldasani from Sundaram Alternates. Please go ahead.

Sundaram Alternates

Sir, hi, sir. Thank you for the opportunity, and congrats for a g reat set of results. Sir, my first question is on the interest cost of INR16 crores. If you could help us with the bifurcation of how much of that is non-fund based limit and given the free up in the working capital, how should we see the interest cost going forward?

Srinivas Reddy

On the interest cost, basically, I can -- I don't have the exact break-up of that, but probably CFO or Srilekha can give it a little later to you, but it's a combinati on of everything, and probably it would we're trying to reduce our interest cost also moving forward furth er. So, it would come down moving forward on a quarter-on-quarter basis, I guess. I think CFO would agree to that.

Sundaram Alternates

Sure. Sir, just last question on this products and others division, I th ink we were trying to increase our TAM with our largest client where we were trying to get into the enc losures and cable harness. Any other new products which we are trying to expand our opportunity with them?

Srinivas Reddy

Yeah, we are definitely doing We're getting qualified for additi onal assemblies as well. So, as and when it is done, we'll intimate accordingly. We're doing that in products division as well as in clean energy. What I want to say is, this is the whole entire focus is th e innovation. We keep working on developing new products on a consistent basis, and you will see the result 6 months 1 year down the line in terms of volumes and all that. That's our f ocus right now. So, that's a continuous process in MTAR. It's not one product.(Inaudible 52:00)

Sundaram Alternates

Okay, sure. Thank you, sir. That's it from my side.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Vipraw Sriva stava from PhillipCapital . Please go ahead.

Vipraw Srivastava

Sure, sir. Thanks for allowing me to ask one more question. So, quickly on the product side where we have obviously seen a very rapid run-up in the con text of this quarter's revenue. So, specifically, sir, going ahead, what kind of programs you're wor king on, I mean, what kind of ramp-up you see as far as product is concerned over next couple of years?

Srinivas Reddy

See, the product division is going to grow rapidly because we have done a lot of work in terms of aerospace, clean energy, and various other sectors, and you are seeing the result now in this quarter, and you'll see more moving forward as well. As I've said earlie r in my presentation, basically, it's a continuous process for MTAR to develop the prod ucts, to cater to the existing customers and new customers as well, in various sectors. So, it's a combination of different segments that we are working on in the product division, which we have done over the last couple of years, and you're seeing the results right now. And moving forward as well, this segment is going to grow more and more.

Vipraw Srivastava

Sure, sir, that makes a lot of sense. That's all from my end. Thank you.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Pritesh Chhed a from Lucky Investments. Please go ahead.

Pritesh Chheda

So, from your backlog, if you could tell us what is the execution cycle of the products backlog and the clean fuel clean energy fuel cell backlog?

Srinivas Reddy

See, that's a very good question. So, we have the order where the demand is so high. See, when people are keep asking about, sorry, sorry, I'm sorry.

Pritesh Chheda

Your sound is Sorry, your sound is not audible, sorry.

Srinivas Reddy

No, I think I'm audible to everyone. I don't know, something Can you hear me now?

Gunneswara Rao

: We can hear you, sir.

Moderator

Sorry to interrupt, sir, there's quite disturbance in your voice.

Srinivas Reddy

Yeah, can you hear me now?

Pritesh Chheda

Yes, sir.

Srinivas Reddy

Okay. See, we have enough order where the demand is so high that we really focused on. The more we execute, the better it is for the customer, so that's what we are doing right now. That's why we're going with the expansion plans, and also focusing on the o perational efficiencies of the existing capacities.

So, the best part of our order book, it's not like an order boo k which has to be executed over 5 years or 10 years, it's all short cycle. Some are within 1 year, some are within 6 months, some are within 2 months, some are within 1 and a half 2 years. So, it is so mething that continuous order book is going to happen. It's not an order book which is spread over that. (In audible:56:27)So, short cycle products, most of them, majority of them, and our focus right now is to execute them as fast as possible.

Pritesh Chheda

So, I was asking on the execution cycle for the clean fuel cell order backlog, is that possible to share?

Srinivas Reddy

Can you hear me now?

Pritesh Chheda

Yes, sir.

Srinivas Reddy

Okay. So, basically, the see, what orders you're seeing right now is that we need to execute them over this year and the next year, and the sooner we do, we are all looking at the execution cycle and implementation of the capacities. And these are all short cycle orders. It' s not that we're trying to execute this over the next 3 years, 4 years, it's all very short cycle orders which we need to execute as soon as possible.

Pritesh Chheda

Okay. And, sir, in the total gigawatt issuance of your key customer, what will be the indicative market share that we'll have?

Srinivas Reddy

No, there's nothing like market share. We right now, see, the d emand is so high right now in terms of the requirements by the customer, so we hold a majority of the sha re in that, but we can't spell out the exact percentage right now.

Pritesh Chheda

Okay. And the last question is on the products business, there is a substantial number this quarter, and on the aerospace and defense business, if I had to ask you 3-4 years down the line, what should be the size of these businesses? So, these businesses have been around INR100-crores size, INR130 crores annual size. If I had to ask you in FY30 based on whatever work efforts that you've put in and the platforms or the projects that you're working on, what kind of business sizes these should be 3-4 years down the line?

Srinivas Reddy

I can't say the exact number, but the kind of roadmap we hav e, it might cross INR1,000 crores very comfortably.

Pritesh Chheda

Both these combined?

Srinivas Reddy

No, I'm talking about the products business.

Pritesh Chheda

Individually INR1,000 crores?

Srinivas Reddy

No, no, aerospace, probably, you're looking at INR600 crores, INR7 00 crores, and products should cross more than INR1,000 crores.

Srinivas Reddy

That's right.

Pritesh Chheda

Okay. Okay, sir. Thank you.

Moderator

Thank you. In the interest of time, that was our last question, and I wou ld now like to hand the conference over to the management for closing remarks. Thank you, and over to you.

Srinivas Reddy

Thank you, everyone, for joining us today and spending y our time to join our earnings call for Q1 FY27. I would like to thank all every all the employees of MTAR for the contribution they have done, and even moving forward as well, and I would like to also thank the shareholders for their trust and faith in MTAR, and continue to support the company moving forward as well. Thank you so much.

Moderator

Thank you. On behalf of MTAR Technologies Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.