Ola Electric Mobility Limited

FY2027 Q1

2026-08-07 Transcript PDF
Moderator

Thank you, Deepak. We will now begin the Question & Answer session. Anyone who wishes to ask a question may use the raise -hand option. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may select the raise-hand option once again. Participants are requested to unmute themselves before asking a question. Before as king your

question, please introduce yourself with your full name and organisation. We will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles.

Bhavish Aggarwal

While we wait, I just want to underline some of Deepak's comments. Q1 has been an important quarter. Margins remained steady and industry-leading at above 30%, despite the commodity upcycle. We expect margins to remain in this range over the next quarter or two and to improve further as commodity prices ease. The highlight of this quarter was the strong top-line recovery, as well as the reduction in operating costs. Deepak highlighted this in his comments, but on almost 2x volumes sequentially from Q4 to Q1, our opex came down meaningfully. Total opex, including leases, was ₹428 crore in Q4 and ₹333 crore in Q1. This included a one-time reversal of the Cell ACC PLI penalty provision that we had been taking every quarter, of about ₹55 crore or so. Even excluding that reversal, opex was about ₹380-odd crore, which is meaningfully lower than Q4 despi te the near -doubling of volumes. We continue to structurally improve our cost base. Over the next couple of quarters, we expect opex to come down into the ₹300-325 crore range, which is where our target is. While doing this, we intend to keep gross margins steady to slightly growing and volumes also steady to slightly growing. From some of the challenging quarters in the past, we have now achieved a good balance in the business between growth, gross -margin stability and operating-cost improvement. Overall, management feels very confident about the path ahead. We have some exciting announcements coming up on 15 August, and I hope you will all tune in. A couple of other developments from the last few days are also worth highlighting and will probably come up in your questions. First, we signed our first MoU for Mahashakti, our utility-scale energy-storage product, with Axis Energy. This will be a meaningful growth driver for the company in the coming years. High -quality renewable platforms and utilities are engaging with us to access Mahashakti as it comes online. This MoU is for 20 GWh over the next five to six years, and I feel confident that more demand pipeline will be announced as it develops. Continuing with the Cell business, the full 6 GWh capacity will be commissioned this quarter. We have also been speaking with companies across the spectrum about using our cells in their products, and the response has been encouraging from global OEMs as well as Indian companies, particularly in sectors such as drones . Many companies are testing our cells, and we will announce more in the coming days. Finally, just yesterday, we announced that we have evolved our Auto distribution strategy from a single-channel, company-owned approach to a multi-channel strategy. I believe this will meaningfully enhance the company's near -term growth. From almost the time we started this company five years ago, people have called us asking to become dealers. In the early days, moving through dealerships would have resulted in a slower pace of growth, while a company -owned strategy allowed the brand to interact directly

with customers. Four or five years ago, the dealer ecosystem was also still early and hence the confidence around EVs. That has materially changed as our scale and the industry have evolved. Over the last month or so, I have personally been engaging with dealers across the country. Their feedback has been quite unanimous: they see strength in our product and product portfolio, including scooters, motorcycles and Shakti. Dealers also understand the local nuances of auto retail and feel confident about the opportunity. We will announce the first set of dealerships, with stores already being set up, to go live on Janmashtami, which is early next month. We look forward to havin g a meaningful scale before the Diwali season. I am confident that this will bring increased top -line growth over the Q1 base, and the best dealers working with the company can provide a strong uplift further ahead. Those are my comments on top of what Dee pak said. To summarise: it was a good quarter and a good bounce -back from Q4. Our gross -margin target is around 30 -32%, which is where we want it to be, and opex continues to improve structurally. With that, I will open the floor for questions.

Moderator

Thank you, Bhavish. We will take the first question from Mr. Rishi Vora of Kotak Securities. Please unmute yourself and ask the question.

Bhavish Aggarwal

Hi, Rishi.

Rishi Vora

Hi, Bhavish. Good evening. I have a couple of questions on the results and th e strategy going forward. First, on the results, why was there a sharp sequential decline in ASP? Was it due to product mix or something else?

Bhavish Aggarwal

Rishi, it was largely a product mix. I would attribute about 90% of it to product mix.

Rishi Vora

Going forward, is this where ASP should remain, or could it improve as the motorcycle portfolio ramps up?

Bhavish Aggarwal

We are already seeing an improvement in product mix from what we saw in Q1. Our premium business is starting to grow again as th e brand has recovered from where it was in Q4, and motorcycles are also beginning to grow in the northern plains. I do not want to give a product-mix forecast, but overall I would say ASP should remain broadly around 1.25L, plus or minus 5%.

Rishi Vora

Understood. In terms of volumes, we did roughly 40,000 -45,000 in Q1. Is there any guidance you would like to share for the full year? You are talking about sequential improvement, and with dealership onboarding and the maturing of products already launched, how would you like to exit going into Q4?

Bhavish Aggarwal

Rishi, we will not give formal guidance or a forecast, but I can explain our approach. Our focus is to keep growing from here in a disciplined manner. Our gross margins are the best in the industr y, and our operating cost structure, particularly for a vertically

integrated business model has become quite competitive. Our focus is therefore to keep growing in a disciplined way from where we are. I cannot say exactly what that will translate into qua rter-on-quarter, but I feel confident that there will be steady growth looking ahead.

Rishi Vora

Understood. On the Cell business, have we started using our own cells in our vehicles? If yes, what is the penetration? Also, could you comment on Ola Shakti - where we are in terms of revenue and whether any scale-up has taken place?

Bhavish Aggarwal

Our cells are already in our products, Rishi, and a few thousand vehicles using them are already on the road. In Q1, we decided to pause cell production to compl ete the next phase of installation, taking capacity from 2.5 GWh to 6 GWh. We had already installed 2.5 GWh and produced a few hundred thousand cells, which have been deployed in vehicles delivered to customers. We have a backlog of own-cell requirements for Shakti as well as our Auto products. We needed about two to three months of zero production to finish installing the remaining capacity. That work should be largely completed this month - most likely within a week to ten days - after which we will ramp up cell production again. About three of our vehicle products, out of roughly nine or ten SKUs, currently use 4680 cells. They will continue to scale as we restart production after completing the full 6 GWh installation.

Rishi Vora

And on Shakti?

Bhavish Aggarwal

We will announce Shakti Gen 2 on 15 August, and it will use LFP cells. Shakti Gen 1 used NMC cells. With NMC, we decided to put out enough units to learn about the category but not scale too much, because NMC is costlier than LFP and the gross margins on that version of Shakti were below our target. With Shakti Gen 2 using LFP cells, we expect gross margins to be even healthier than in our Auto segment. It will be announced on 15 August. On 15 August, we will share more details about Mahashakti, Shakti and other Shakti formats for the commercial and industrial space, including data centres. The rollout of these products begins this quarter.

Rishi Vora

Was there any meaningful contribution from Ola Shakti to revenue this quarter?

Bhavish Aggarwal

No. We delivered a few hundred units and then decided not to scale the NMC -based Shakti, but instead pivot to the LFP -based Shakti. Another positive development this quarter was that our LFP cell received BIS certification, so the LFP programme is progressing very well.

Bhavish Aggarwal

Rishi, if you look at our Auto business, there is hardly any capex now. Auto does not need material capex for the foreseeable future because our factory is already scaled to one million units a year, and it is a vertically integrated f actory. Our Cell factory is also completing its capex cycle this quarter with 6 GWh installed. We do not foresee material capex after that, and the remaining Cell capex is funded through debt; the equity contribution is largely complete. So, there is no ma jor capex requirement for the foreseeable future. On depreciation, we have evolved parts of our depreciation policy to align with industry standards. There were some areas where we were depreciating assets very aggressively, and we have brought those to industry norms. The resulting delta is about ₹10-20 crore.

Rishi Vora

One clarification on capex: there would also be some R&D that you capitalise. Are there any R&D targets you would share?

Bhavish Aggarwal

No targets, Rishi. We capitalise a minority of our R&D spend, not a large part.

Moderator

Sorry to disturb, Rishi.

Rishi Vora

Sorry. I’ll call back in again. Okay.

Moderator

In the interest of time, we will take questions from the other participants. Thank you, Rishi. We will take the next question from Mr. Akshay Satija of Alpha Invesco. Please unmute yourself and ask your question.

Bhavish Aggarwal

Hi, Akshay.

Akshay Satija

Hi, Bhavish. Thank you for the opportunity, and congratulations on lowering costs. On the Cell business, how should we think about the mix between LFP and NMC? Have we decided the direction?

Bhavish Aggarwal

Akshay, that is a good question. Looking ahead, a large part of our business will be LFP. Almost all of Ola Electric's Auto business will move to LFP over time. Please wait until later this month, when we will have some announcements on that. Within Auto, about 20% of our portfolio will remain NMC -based for higher -performance and top -end products. Everything else will move to LFP. All of Shakti and Mahashakti - the energy- storage business - will be LFP-based. NMC will also remain relevant for niche categories such as drones, where customers have alrea dy shown significant interest in our NMC cell. Several of them are trialling it, and we will talk more about that soon.

Bhavish Aggarwal

The plan is that the first 6 GWh will be cylindrical capacity, while the expansion from 6 GWh to 20 GWh will be prismatic. R&D on our prismatic cell is already under way, and we expect it to be completed by the end of this year. At that point , we will aim to scale from 6 GWh to 20 GWh, but only by bringing equity into the Cell company. We will not use equity from the parent entity for that expansion; we will raise separate equity at the right time.

Akshay Satija

Would that be in FY28 or FY29?

Bhavish Aggarwal

No, FY27

Akshay Satija

Could you also give some colour on the yields you had achieved before production was paused? My understanding is that the operation becomes commercially viable at yields of 90% or higher.

Bhavish Aggarwal

Akshay, yields were in the high-70s to around 80% range when we paused production. There is a clear roadmap to move from there to above 90% within a quarter of restarting. We expect to restart production later this month after the full installation is complete.

Akshay Satija

And we should start seeing numbers from the battery business from Q3 onwards - is that correct?

Bhavish Aggarwal

Yes, absolutely.

Akshay Satija

On the scooter business, we still see some service issues relating to parts availability. Could you explain what caused that problem? Was it on the vendor side, or was it related to volume planning?

Bhavish Aggarwal

Most of the service challenges are now behind us, Akshay. You are right that they were largely linked to the availability of parts, ra ther than a very high need for service. Whenever parts were required, some were in short supply, particularly a few critical parts where we faced vendor challenges, including issues linked to the macro geopolitical situation. We are navigating that. There are no material challenges in the parts supply chain, although there are a couple of items that we monitor very closely. Going forward, under the dealer model, dealers will stock parts and buy them from us on a cash-and-carry basis. That should materially reduce this challenge across the dealer - led sales and service network.

Akshay Satija

When you describe the scooter business as vertically integrated, could you specify what is manufactured in-house - motors, MCUs, BMS and so on?

Bhavish Aggarwal

Electronics, motors, the frame, paint, the battery pack, the wiring harness and a large part of the fabrication, among other components, are all done in-house.

Moderator

Thank you , Akshay. We will take the next question from Mr. Purvesh Patel of Acacia Capital. Please unmute yourself and ask your question.

Acacia Capital

Good evening. What is the expected timeline for transitioning Ola Electric's vehicle portfolio to in-house-manufactured cells?

Bhavish Aggarwal

Purvesh, we have not put out hard guidance publicly. But, as an assumption, by the end of this year most of our vehicles should be on our own cells. I do not want to give a firm guidance on that at this stage.

Moderator

Thank you, Purvesh. I think Rishi has a follow-up question. Rishi, please unmute yourself and ask your question.

Rishi Vora

Sorry, I was muted. I have two follow -up questions. First, a clarification on capex: while you said there is hardly any capex, could you give us an approximate number? Would it be ₹100 crore, ₹200 crore for the year, or not even to that extent?

Bhavish Aggarwal

Rishi, except for the Cell project that is now being completed, capex beyond that will be around ₹30-50 crore. You can use ₹50 crore as a target number.

Rishi Vora

Understood. On the Cell business, when you say we will start seeing a contribution from Q3, one part is the internal use of cells in our own products. What else should we expect?

Bhavish Aggarwal

Shakti will also be in the market with the LFP cell. We should start seeing some early revenue from Mahashakti, hopefully in Q3 or Q4.

Rishi Vora

Would that include supplies to Axis Energy, or is it somebody else?

Bhavish Aggarwal

I will not be able to share that at this stage.

Rishi Vora

Understood. On the dealership strategy, could you help us understand how many touchpoints we currently have and how many dealers you would like to appoint by the festive season or the end of Q3? A t a higher level, what prompted the change in go -to- market strategy?

Bhavish Aggarwal

You know the answer to that, Rishi, but I will still answer. Auto retail has a lot of local nuances, and we have learned that along the way. The way we started as a brand would not have been possible through a dealer -only channel because we had a very strong start to our journey, and the company is only five years old. As we scaled, and we still have the largest cumulative customer base of electric two -wheelers in the cou ntry, we realised that a dealer can manage the local nuances of auto retail, customer engagement, service and store operations much better at scale. That is why we have pivoted. The strategy now is for company stores to become larger, higher -quality experi ence centres and, over time, fewer in number. Dealer stores will become the backbone for

volumes, transactions and service. That is how we are thinking about growth from here. We have received phenomenal interest in the two days since we publicly announced the strategy. Even before the announcement, we had been engaging with 20-30 dealers for about a month. Almost 1,000 people have expressed interest in talking to us, which is more than our team can currently process. Our goal is to select high-quality partners. We have also brought back Mr. B.V.R. Subbu, who was a board member before we went public and has remained engaged with the company. He understands the key people in the dealer ecosystem and is helping us select the right partners. At this point, it is a matter of selection for us. The proposition for dealers is very strong. First, we have a very large customer base, and dealers value service revenue. A large number of our electric two-wheelers are now beyond the three- year warranty period; our Gen 1 vehicles are out of warranty. Dealers therefore see substantial service potential. Second, our product portfolio is broad. We have premium and mass -market scooters, motorcycles and Shakti, as well as a few upcoming products that we have shared in confidence with some dealers. The portfolio is attractive to them, and Ola is already a well-known brand. There are questions about whether the brand weakened over the last few quarters. It did, but dealers also see the resurgence. The stronger dealers see the un derlying product pull, and they believe the service challenges are areas they can address effectively. We therefore see a strong path ahead and a relevant pivot. In the overall scheme of things, this should make a meaningful difference to our scale over th e next few months and also to industry penetration.

Rishi Vora

Would you share any numbers? We currently have around 500 touchpoints, if I am not mistaken. Is there a target dealership count?

Bhavish Aggarwal

We will not share a number today. As I said in my opening comments, the first batch will go live on Janmashtami, which I believe is 4 September.

Rishi Vora

Lastly, on Ola Shakti: since it will be sold through our own experience centres and dealers, are you considering a different go-to-market strategy? This category is typically more distributor-led.

Bhavish Aggarwal

That is a good question. From day one, Ola Shakti has followed - and will increasingly follow as supply scales - a multi-channel strategy. It will be sold through our company stores and automotive dealers. We are also signing up traditional, industry -specific channels used for inverter and battery products. We have learned to maximise the channel strategy.

Bhavish Aggarwal

Thank you, everyone. In the interest of time, actually, we will take up Udit's question. Udit, please go ahead.

Udit Jaiswal

Good evening, Bhavish. Congratulations to you and the entire Ola Electric team on the progress this quarter. My first question is on th e recently announced partnership with Axis Energy. While the MoU is an exciting validation of Ola's energy ambitions, could you help investors understand the scale of the opportunity? How should we think about the revenue potential, commercialisation timeline and broader pipeline for similar enterprise partnerships over the next few years?

Bhavish Aggarwal

That is a good question, Udit. I believe the energy -storage opportunity will be massive for India and for our company. The Central Electricity Authority, a government body, has estimated a requirement of about 400 GWh over the next five to six years. I believe that is an underestimation of what India will need. Energy storage will be deployed at the grid level, the home level and everywhere in between. We have a strong advantage in coming to market early with a vertically integrated product, and our engineering strength helps us offer a strong proposition to customers. Customers in this market care about attributes that a high-quality engineered product can deliver. For example, our product will have better round -trip efficiency because we are bringing across the automotive technology we have used to optimise range. Our range is significantly better for the same kilowatt -hour battery pack, and we are car rying the relevant software, wiring -harness and systems capabilities into Mahashakti. We expect round-trip efficiency to be a few percentage points higher than industry offerings. Safety is another important dimension. Our safety performance will be high er. Industry- standard containers currently hold around 5 MWh, and without taking away from the 15 August announcement, I can say that our product will be higher than that.

Udit Jaiswal

That is great to hear. My second question is on Roadster. What is Roadster's contribution to total revenue and the total number of vehicles sold?

Bhavish Aggarwal

Roadster is still a small minority contribution for us. We have received a good response to the product, particularly the higher -range 9.1 kWh variant. We have n ot been able to supply enough because of the 4680 -cell shortage while we complete the capacity installation. Deliveries were therefore slightly below orders in the quarter, and pending 4680-cell vehicles will need to be delivered over this quarter and the next. As availability of the higher -range Roadster improves, I believe customers will increasingly adopt electric motorcycles.

Moderator

Thank you, Udit. With this, we come to the conclusion of the session. We appreciate your time and all your questions during the call today. Thank you for joining us, and we look forward to meeting all of you during our next Earnings Conference Call. You may now log off the conference call. Good evening.