SKF India (Industrial) Limited

FY2026 Q1

2026-08-14 Transcript PDF
Moderator

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assembles. Our first question comes from the line of Viraj Kacharia with SiMPL. Please go ahead.

Yes, hi. Thanks for the opportunity. Couple of questions, first is, in terms of new products, in the annual report also we talked about there's a change in approach towards application focused selling. So, you know, where do you see white spaces in terms of new products and where do you see biggest opportunity for growth? Soany color you can give in terms of timeline, in terms of new product pipeline and the segments we are looking at. So that is one. And we also talked about in the AGM that we are looking at bringing parent's robotics, humanoid robots and data center related product portfolio to India. So again, if you can give some more color in terms of TAM and the content we will be looking to kindof capture into. So that is one. And second is on the margin piece. If you can quantify the FX, the demerger related expenses in the quarter gone by. And in the AGM also, we talked about a PBT margin guidance of 14.0% to 16.0%. But this seems to be lower than the earlier guidance of 16.0% to 19.0%. So, where is that, what is really driving the moderation in the margin structure?

Mukund Vasudevan

Okay. I will try and answer that to the best of my ability. I wi ll for most of these questions. All right, segments where we are seeing new product opportunities for innovation, I would say industrial across the board. Some segments, though, are slower to adopt in innovation than others, just because change is costly for them, right, and any risk, they are risk averse. But other segments are much more open to it. I would say where we are seeing the most traction right now in terms of innovation would be in the general machinery, which is the manufacturing for gearboxes.

Mukund Vasudevan

Okay, is everybody having the same challenge?

Prabhsharan Kaur

Yes.

Ashish Saraf

Yes, Mukund, your voice is breaking a bit here.

Mukund Vasudevan

Okay, give me a second. Alright, Is that better?

Mukund Vasudevan

Okay. So I was saying that more traction in innovation in some of the sectors where the customers are more amenable to changes in products. We are seeing that in motors, pumps, gearboxes, we are seeing that. We are seeing innovation happen in some other sectors like F&B. I would see, where we do see innovation, but those are more to specific customers, would be in agriculture or , but those are customizedoffering to a customer and where innovation is possible. We are continuing to innovate to bring down our costs, that also is a form of innovation so that we are more competitive in the market. That is across sectors.

You asked about humanoids and data centers. Yes, that is exciting, but it's early days for India. Not much humanoid manufacturing happening in India right now, but we see that to continue to improve and we will be able to supply that opportunity, have the product line available. In data centers, data centers has been a -- it's an expected distance in the future. Right now, where we are seeing some traction is in generators -- pumps, very basic things needed in any data center, not just the hyperscalers or very large AI related data centers are near. So we are seeing that ready and them significantly. When you come to chillers in part equipment used in some of the data centers, one, it's very early in the sales cycle and most of OEMs who are outside the country and so are purchased there. We will continue to serve aftermarket and when the need arises, but right now, both these are exciting opportunities, not significant yet in our business in SKF India. All right. On margin, I'll letAshish answer the demerger question. Iwill just broken up into how much is the impact of effects of demerger. I'll just answer the long-term. trend, 14 to 16% gave guidance. I would say we are being conservative. We are -- our aspiration or ambition is to try and get closer to 17, 18 or even 19. In the near term, as we -- investments, make investments, we think that there will be dip, right? Beyond 2028, we would start seeing this improvements. But for the next couple of years at least, because of the investments we are making, there will continue margin pressure as localization increases, so we make more products in India or in the region for to be more competitive and our margins improve. And as our top line improves and our operational efficiency alsoimproves, we get more. We can definitely reach the path to 14 to 16. Beyond that, we will try and get there, but we don't want to make a commitment because that is beyond 2028. Ashish.

Ashish Saraf

Thanks, Mukund. So just to elaborate further on the margins for this quarter, right? So if you look at we came in at around 9%. We had a forex loss of around if you look at quarter over quarter because of the rupee depreciation, which got impacted predominantly on account of the Middle East war, we had significant forex loss on the products that we importe d, right, from predominantly from Europe and other markets. So that was to the tune of around INR147 million if you compare it quarter-over-quarter. On top of that, we continue to incur expenses on IT, as we are separating the IT infrastructure of both automotive and industrial company. So this quarter we had an additional adverse impact of almost INR150 million impacting our P&L, predominantly coming on account of the IT cost, IT infrastructure cost that we are incurring on account of demerger. This expense is expected to continue for the next two quarters till the AB SKF separates globally with the automotive company of SKF and post that this cost would stop. So if you look at if you combine both the FX as well as this one-time cost that we are incurring on account of demerger, that itself is almost 3% on an adverse impact on our margins. So if you kind of add that back, we pretty much come to 12%. And then the a dditional initiatives that Mukund talked about, which is pretty much manufacturing efficiency and the new investment

in the Pune plant, I think both these initiatives would help us drive the margins that we are aspiring to achieve in mid to long term.

Moderator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Varun Jain with Dolat Capital. Please go ahead.

Dolat Capital

Ya, hi. Good morning, sir. I have a couple of questions. Sir, firstly on the order wins for wind and agri, what is the supply period for INR140 crores of this revenue? In what period this will be realized? And are these orders recurring in nature that we do expect recurring revenue from them? And secondly, on the customer mix, so what is the difference in the margins we realize on distribution, exports and OEM?

Mukund Vasudevan

The order wins which you spoke about which we highlighted, most of these, the ones I highlighted were one -time, but they extend to one year typically, one or two years. The wind gearbox one is a one-year order, over it is spread through the year. And the one is also it's -- to be a longer term one, right, but the annual value we have shown there, right, that will be longer- term. That said, there are other orders where we have services contracts or we have condition monitoring contracts which are slightly longer-term. When you come to certain others, most of the OEM orders tend to be one-time or one year, not lifetime. So the order book is growing and we continue to see this order book develop and grow actually as we look at the macros for India and it has been sustained growth for the last few quarters at least in order book. All right. Distributor, OEM and export margins, Ashish, if you could take that.

Ashish Saraf

Sure, Mukund. So typically if you look at distribution, distribution remains is our higher margin channel, right? Since we are serving the aftermarket business, we are able to command a better price compared to the products that we sell in the OEM market. OEMs are also are relatively lower operating margin business, but it's significant for SKF because it kind of helps drive the aftermarket business for SKF, right? It helps us grow our market share, the aftermarket business at a faster pace. So it's a healthy mix if you look at our OE business and I'm talking about total revenue split that we have for this quarter, our distribution mix is around 34% and our OE mix is around 54%, right? So overall it's a pretty healthy mix and as we grow our OE business, it's going to help us improve our overall distribution mix and grow our overall operating margin as well.

Ashish Saraf

Yes. So if you talk about OE margins, typically it would be relatively high single-digit margins, whereas distribution would be high double-digit. And in terms of the tapered roller bearing that we have inaugurated, it's basically going to serve, and Mukund, you can pitch in, is going to serve the agriculture market, gearbox, as well as some of our aftermarket business as well.

Dolat Capital

Okay, sir. Got it. Thank you and all the best.

Moderator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Gokul Maheshwari with Awriga Capital. Please go ahead.

Awriga Capital

Yes, thank you for the opportunity. Just two questions. So one on page 27 of the annual report, in the MD's letter, you had spoken about the solutions business. Can you quantify what is– how big is that for us and what was the growth in FY ‘26? And my second question is that in the same letter, you mentioned about your aspiration to double the business with improved margins, while you quantified the margins part on the aspiration to double the business, if we could indicate a timeline also.

Mukund Vasudevan

Okay. The solutions business, which includes our services business, includes remanufacturing and primarily in railways, but also increasingly in other industries where we older bearings or used bearings and bring it back to almost and then give a three -year warranty on it. That is significant in railways, it is also increasing in pulp and paper and metals now. That is one portion of the solutions business. The second is all the condition monitoring, the predictive business, predictive maintenance, reliability solutions to increase plant uptime or to increase their mean time between failure kind of solutions which we offer. Those are the digital solutions weoffer, part of the solutions factory. And then we also offer certain where we offer take, like a managing an entire shop in a steel mill, where we essentially O&M for them, also maintaining the bearings, lubricating the bearings, remanufacturing the bearings. So all of those constitute the solutions. Today, it is small, but we see huge potential. It is less than 10%, now it's around 6% to 7% of India business. We are seeing growth in industry for that business, but as we are investing more both from a technology perspective condition monitoring technology, et cetera., and in go -to- market with additional sales people to actually go out and sell this concept direct to end users, we are seeing additional traction and expect that to grow even faster. Second part of doubling business, right, I'm not going to put a timeline on it, that is an aspiration. I would say ideally in five years we would like to get, right? If it's possible, we'd like to do it quicker, but that's an aspiration which we have and I would say five years onthe outside is where we'd like to get there.

Awriga Capital

Okay, great. Thank you so much and all the best. Thank you.

Ravi Purohit

Yes, hi. Thanks for the opportunity. Couple of questions. Ashish, you mentioned about margin difference being 3%, right? So right now we are at 9%, so that takes it to 12%. How long are we going to incur these one -off costs? I believe in the earlier calls you had mentioned that it will run for about a year or so. So does it mean that next quarter will be the last quarter and after that these expenses will stop? And second is, I think Mr. Mukund had mentioned that our near-term goal is about 14% to 16%. So is it this 14% to 16% is up to 2028 till the new factory kind of commissions or because this 12% should come immediately once these one -off costs kind of get ad justed. So if you could just kind of help us understand the nuances. And also this new line that we have commissioned on tapered roller, is it being operated by SKF India Auto or is it being operated , so is there like a demarcation or is it like so we are still not clear, are we operating a running factory in Pune for SKF Industrial on the new land that we have for how are the operations kind of getting run there?

Ashish Saraf

Sure. So maybe I'll answer the margin question and then I'll pass on to Mukund to elaborate on more on the factory operations. So in terms of margin, you're right, we are currently operating at 9%. The one -time cost that we are getting on account of IT, that we are expecting to taper down, right? So we should see probably significant cost in this quarter and then it should start tapering down by end of this year and then probably from Q1 or Q4 next year, we should not see these costs, right? So that is one. And then the other aspect of the margin adverse impact on the margin was on account of the forex, which really depends on how rupee performs vis -à-vis the other currencies. In terms of margins, so 12% is a fair number in term of current performance. Additionally, as I said, as we are working on driving manufacturing efficiencies and reducing cost of the products that we produce in our factories, we expect our margins to improve further by couple of percentage points. And on top of that, once our new Pune plant is set up by end of 2028, we expect further margin improvements going forward. Mukund, you want to answer on the factory operations?

Mukund Vasudevan

Yes, so the factory operations, I think the question was on the TRB line, that is in SKF Industrial, it's not in the SKF Automotive line.

Ravi Purohit

Okay. And sir, in the past, you know, we had mentioned that we are looking to add about 15/20 lines here. Some will be moved from our associated companies globally, right, and some will be set up afresh. So does it mean that the overall capex that we will have to incur will be significantly lower and the setup time for these machines which are actually only shifting from one geography to another, so those can happen actually earlier than end of 2028 that you are referring to or is it like part of that end of 2028 commissioning?

Mukund Vasudevan

Yes, unfortunately the challenge, the biggest challenge is actually space. So we will need a new factory. While we are squeezing out as much as we can with the existing channels in the within the existing space, demand, right, so some of the new channels will require additional space.

So the factory – it is tied to the factory. Yes, so I would say majority of the new installations, which will happen, will happen with once the new factory is up and running 2028 and beyond. Until then, we will upgrade our existing machinery to kind of drive more output out of it and continue to drive additional efficiency and get more output to meet the demand. It's not that we are falling short of capacity right now, it's just that by 2028 additional capacity.

Ashish Saraf

And just to add, we are also -- again, even though we are constrained by capacity, we are still going to add one additional channel by early 2027, one additional TRB channel by 2027.

Ravi Purohit

Okay. And sir, one precedence that we have seen in India is that, you know, lot of MNCs who had similar line businesses between listed entities and unlisted entities, there has been a tendency to kind of merge everything into one uniform entity from costs point of view and, you know, operations point of view and marketing and sales point of view, right? So example being you've seen 3M do it, we have seen the latest in the list is Bosch, right? They have basically acquired the 100% subsidiary of Bosch parent in India, which is Bosch Chassis, right? So we have a large factory in Ahmedabad, we have some operat ions in Bangalore. So there is a lube business and a wind-bearing business which is outside of this company, although we do kind of market and sale through the listed entity from via traded goods. But it's a suggestion and I don't know if you have any thoughts that you can share with investors at large now that Industrial is a separate entity altogether and we have this regular platform to kind of discuss future plans. So if you could just kind of g ive some insight and if Mr. Sujeeth can also kind of share a few words given that he's taking reins over from 1st of September as to how does he see, you know, SKF Industrial over the next three to five years.

Mukund Vasudevan

Okay. This is something which we continuously evaluate. So at this moment, as I've mentioned before, we're not looking at it actively, mainly because we want this demerger stabilised, there's some stabilization required within India on this demerger. And as you saw, there is some work to be done. So we're going to let this stabilize before we think about any other major such move. But that is something we continuously evaluate, but right now we're not looking at it in terms of merging the end. In terms of Sujeeth, a few words, why don't we leave that to the last so maybe one other question and then if we have some time we'll let Sujeeth to speak just in the interest of taking as many questions as possible in the time, if you don't mind.

Ravi Purohit

Sure. I'll get back in the queue. Thank you.

Mukund Vasudevan

We'll take one last question and then Sujeeth can say a few words.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Divij Punjabi with Banyan Tree Advisors. Please go ahead.

Banyan Tree Advisors

Yes, hi. Thanks for the opportunity. I had two questions. One is, like you mentioned the ambition of doubling the business in five years. So can you talk about the key drivers or the key segments that will drive this growth? And the other one is based on thecapex plans of INR800 to INR950

crores, what are the kind of asset turns that can be achieved over there once the demand comes through and we are operating at scale?

Mukund Vasudevan

Sorry, can you repeat the second question again? What is the second question?

Mukund Vasudevan

Asset turns on that?

Banyan Tree Advisors

Yes, if it would align with what we're seeing in FY '26?

Mukund Vasudevan

Yes, okay. Since the other investor wanted Sujeeth to speak, maybe Sujeeth you can take this question, what are going to be the major growth drivers for the India business, which industries do you see, and then kind of give a few words?

Sujeeth Pai

All right. Sure. Thank you. Thank you, Mukund. So I think I'll start with overview. Firstly, I think we're in a great place in terms of pure tailwinds that we have. The great thing about SKF is we operate in pretty much all segments. We don't have overreliance on any one segment. And all of these segments are cyclical. But if you just look at the overall trajectory and where the country is going, purely from a infra perspective, steel capacity addition perspective, cement addition perspective, we're in a great place where most major companies have plans to kind of double by 2030. And we'll add more capacity in the next five years than we've added probably in the last 10 years. What this does is this also drives demand for all the other general machinery industries, the motors, the pumps, the ancillaries, the conveyors, et cetera. So that's one part of the major industry where we're seeing great macro drivers and we see growth isgoing to come from there. The second big one, of course, is railways. And railways again we continue to invest. It's an area that keeps growing and we see good headwinds from there as well. And the last one will be on renewable energy. We spoke about that a little bit yesterday. 25 .0% of the renewable energy that's going to be added is going to come from wind. And as we see wind growing, again we see good potential for us to grow. So I think from where we are set up today in terms of how we've structured the new Industrial company, we see opportunities across all of these segments. We have structured well today to seize the opportunity in all of these different segments. We also have all the investment secured and in place so that we get the capacity growth over the next three to four years. So really for us it's about execution today. We have the strategy, the right strategy in place, we've got the investments in place, and as long as we execute well, we see we're in a good place to get growth over the next five years.

Ashish Saraf

Sure, Mukund. So again, if you look at the investments that we are making of around INR850 crores to INR900 crore, a significant part of the investment is to set up the new factory, right, which is basically the whole infrastructure of the factory and the whole the whole layout, right? So from a payback perspective, what we are looking at is around five to seven years, right, for the entire investments that we are making, which is basically the new factory, transfer of our existing channels from the automotive factory to this factory, plus getting new channels from other SKF companies as well as from third -party, right? So putting the entire investment together, we are looking at a payback between five to seven years.

Banyan Tree Advisors

Sure, that was very helpful. Thank you.

Moderator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question for today. We will close the conference. On behalf of SKF India Industrial Limited. That concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us and you may now disconnect your lines. Thank you.