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UNITDSPR · FY2025 Q3

United Spirits Limited analyst Q&A

2025-01-24
Moderator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question-and-answer session. Anyone wishes to ask a question, may press “*” and “1” on their touchtone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press “*” and “2”. Participants are requested to use their handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. The first question comes from the line of A bneesh Roy from Nuvama. Please go ahead.

Abneesh Roy

Congrats on the good set of numbers. My first question is on Andhra market. So, in terms of the supply side, in terms of the market share, also if you could talk about is it reflecting your pan India market share, is it now similar, say, in Andhra? And in terms of the profitability in Andhra, again, how good is it? And any teething troubles if you could highlight because this was the first quarter? Any teething troubles for you or for industry and any discussion with the government if that's needed?

Hina Nagarajan

Abneesh, I'll start. Good to hear you. And then Pradeep can add to that. So, I would say, yes, in Andhra, we have got our fair share. And it does reflect what we are doing nationally. And basically, there were teething issues. I mean, we had to stand up a full team in a very short period of time and ramp up our supplies. And obviously, with retail pipelining and the market starting up, it was quite difficult to forecast, but I think the teams have worked really hard together to sort of put it together. And we are very satisfied with where we have reached. I think the scale - up we are quite pleased with. And there are no further teething issues to really discuss. I think over the next 2-3 quarters we should see business as usual, stable sort of demand situation emerging. And our team is equipped to handle the same and in terms of profit.

Pradeep Jain

So, maybe Abneesh, you had mentioned about profitability. So, look, Andhra, the prices are very similar to Telangana, right? But we are obviously, our COG S should print much superior to Telangana. So, you know, it's slightly better than Telangana, right? That's all that I can say at this stage.

Abneesh Roy

And in terms of supply side, again, everything is local or are you importing from other market?

Hina Nagarajan

No, it is local.

Hina Nagarajan

We have ramped up local production.

Abneesh Roy

My second question is on leadership change. So, Hina, four-year tenure, brilliant job in terms of innovation, in terms of margin improvement. I wanted to understand more from the background of the new person who will be joining in March. So, essentially non -alcohol industry background, media background and HT background. I wanted to understand the thought process behind this. And in terms of strategic initiatives, anything big change you would expect from the new management because you would be new leadership, because you will be definitely ensuring one month of the handover also. But in terms of why H T Media kind of a background was there and does it help in terms of a relationship with the political decision makers or say the bureaucrats, was that something which can help?

Hina Nagarajan

Thank you very much for your wishes first of all and your kind words. Look, I think this was a well-planned succession plan thoughtfully executed. Praveen, we are delighted to have him join Diageo. He brings very strong understanding of the consumer and India. He's got an excellent track record and managed many international markets as well as many roles in Ind ia. So, he brings a lot of understanding. What I'd like to say is that, look, there are two things. One is that I have nearly six weeks of overlap with Praveen, and I will obviously be spending all that time inducting Praveen into the business. But I think what you should get the biggest reassurance from is the fact that we have a very talented executive team and the team below the executive team which handles ea ch functional vertical independently has a deep knowledge of our industry, right. Also, our strategy is working. So, you know the incoming CEO will have a fully functional machinery supporting him and setting him up for success. I don't think the decision was based on, can this bring particularly some strong relationship with the political sort of or bureaucratic system, I think it is on the basis of consumer. We are a consumer first company and Praveen brings excellent credentials in that sense.

Abneesh Roy

Last question on the demand side. So, one of the few companies highlighting sequential improvement in demand. Now, when I see before the December quarter, your prior four quarters was weak, and you had highlighted that well in advance. Now, the only change in December quarter is essentially marriage season was very strong, and next two quarters also, marriage dates are again very strong. Would you say that this is a very significant reason for the sentiment improvement, your number improvement? And on Karnataka, again, there was the tax reduction at the mid and top end. So, if you could talk about that, how big is the benefit from there?

Hina Nagarajan

So, I would say, Abhneesh, I wouldn't say the whole improvement in sentiment has come because of weddings. I think the whole improvement has come because of a much better festive demand overall, right. And weddings is always a key part of this season. Every year we have, thousands of marriages in India. So, this was also strong, but not the only reason. I think festive demand did pick up. We saw very good secondaries on gifting and , on consumption and we are hoping that this will, as the overall consumer environment sort of becomes better over the next 12-18 months, we are hoping that this will translate to even better consumption and demand for our AlcoBev. I'll hand over to Pradeep to talk about Karnataka.

Pradeep Jain

So Karnataka, Abneesh, is not a very large salience, right? I mean, once we divested the popular brands. But as you would have seen already in a number, the popular business has grown well during the quarter, and that is more an outcome of the prior year comparative. You know if all of you will remember, in this quarter last year, popular volume shrunk almost like 20% to 22%, if I'm not wrong, right? And the total value shrinkage was close to about 12% and post that, we had done some value righting interventions. So, a part of that is playing out, also a part of the duty reduction that the state had done about 4 to 5 months ago, that is playing out. So, that's what, otherwise there is no dramatic difference in the Karnataka numbers.

Abneesh Roy

One clarification on Karnataka essentially, and that's my last question. So, Karnataka, if I see demographic wise, per capita income wise, very attractive market, and we are seeing the Heineken put up their premium beer factory also there. So, in terms of P&A for Karnataka, what are the medium to long-term plans? It's a very attractive market from a consumption perspective, any yardstick you see, in one of the most attractive markets. I do understand in states, the taxation is extremely relevant, but ex of taxation, is there something you can do for the P&A there?

Hina Nagarajan

I mean, Abneesh, we are doing what we can, right, with the current taxation structure, and we continue to have ongoing dialogue with the government to optimize and rationalize the tax structure to drive more premiumization. And you know as and when that happens, I think we will see the types of benefits we have seen in the other states, right? So, within that, I mean, we are not leaving anything unturned in terms of the amount of activation or brand building that we do in the state, but the taxation does have a role to play.

Abneesh Roy

Understood. That's all from my side. Thank you.

Hina Nagarajan

Thank you Abneesh.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Percy from IIFL. Please go ahead.

Percy

Hi everyone. So, my question is on the overall growth ex -Andhra for P&A, it was about 9% in value terms. And this is basically a year in which the phasing of the sales was tilted towards the second half. So, if our overall full year growth aspirations are double digit, and in this quarter we are a little short of that despite the phasing benefit, would we sort of, I mean would you like to revise that guidance for FY26 in light of the weak macro consumption sentiment?

Pradeep Jain

So, Percy okay let me just kind of remind everyone, right? I think we were very, very emphatic in the last quarterly call that our aspirations for the full year are double digit P&A growth, including Andhra, right? And I think we are well on track for that. And we would want to reemphasize, right, that we are not losing sight of that objective. In fact, after delivering the quarter that we have delivered, we only feel more confident that we should be able to get to P&A double digit for the full fiscal year right. And on a full portfolio basis, I think we stand at about 7.5 on a YTD nine months, while we'll obviously aspire to try and reach double digit, but we may fall a little short on that front right. I think that's the only point that we would want to make, to re-emphasize.

Percy

Understood, understood. Also, Andhra, I mean, if I recall correctly, you had mentioned 1 or 2 calls ago that basically before the problem started and you exited, it was around 4% of your overall top line and in the very first quarter you have sort of achieved 6%. Now obviously there is a channel fill in here in addition to the off takes. So, just wanted to understand in this industry, normally the total channel whatever distributor plus retailer, the total channel is typically how many months of sales. Nothing to do specifically with this quarter or Andhra fill in, but generally I'm asking that in this industry, what is the total channel as number of days?

Pradeep Jain

So, Percy, I think you've answered the question yourself. The 6% reflects a lot of retail pipeline filling as well as the stocks at the corporation depot warehouses, I think there are 21 of them in Andhra, right? So, that's the one which takes the 4-4.5 range that I had given to the 6.1 for the quarter. And broadly, if you look, look, I don't think we have visibility into what kind of inventories the retailers hold, but very, very broadly I can take a guess they'll probably hold about 30 days to 35 days of inventory the retailers will hold and another 20 days to 25 days at the corporation depot. So, that's about 60 days of inventory holding yeah.

Percy

And again, I'm sure you don't have the exact data, but you have a lot of intelligence, feet on street, etc. So, in your best estimation, what is actually the off-take level sales in Andhra this quarter as a percentage of your total sales?

Pradeep Jain

No, too difficult to call out now. Maybe in the next couple of years, whatever the primary sales are that couple of quarters . The primary sales itself will reflect the trend of the replenishment , right. So, that will be a reasonably good indicator.

Hina Nagarajan

Yeah, Yeah.

Percy

Understood, understood. And would it be fair to assume that this 6% contribution that you've seen this quarter, it will not be this high in the coming quarter, in the March quarter, because you will not have the channel fill in and more or less…..

Hina Nagarajan

It might. That’s right.

Percy

Okay, okay. Understood yeah, that's all from me. Thank you.

Hina Nagarajan

Thank you.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Avi Mehta from Macquarie. Please go ahead.

Avi Mehta

Hi. Hi Pradeep and Hina I wanted to just pick up on your comments on the weakness in the top end. Could you please share your thoughts on what in your view is driving it and by when do you see this changing? It would be great to kind of get some thoughts on that.

Hina Nagarajan

I think you know we called this out a couple of quarters ago. 8 to 10 quarters ago, we had said that there is some moderation in the momentum of the market, but we were still seeing the premiumization ladder intact within our category. And then a couple of quarters ago, we called out that, yes, the top end is moderating. And Avi I mean it's clear. I think it's the overall inflationary pressure, and overall sentiment of, I think that the flow of everything that is happening, there is new budget, there is some uncertainty in front of you, so the consumer sentiment though better than the rest of the world also came down in India and that has reflected at the top end where have we have actually seen very good growth in the middle bulk of our industry and that also evidence in our price mix during the last couple of quarter s, but I would say that considering the overall macros around luxury consumption in India across multiple categories, as of now, we believe this is a temporary blip and not structural. And we are confident that the top end will gain momentum over the next few quarters. So, you know I hope that over the next 3-4-5 quarters, we will see again that, momentum that we saw a couple of years ago.

Pradeep Jain

Yeah Avi, it could also be, I'm just adding to what Hina has said, it could also be a little bit of normalization of the post COVID…..

Hina Nagarajan

Covid revenge consumption.

Pradeep Jain

Covid-revenge consumption and a little bit of the, of the tailwinds we had from the duty free to the duty paid, so part of that would be normalizing right. So, I think those are the added factors in addition to the overall macros. For longer term but we don't, we don't expect any concern on this front, it should rebound.

Hina Nagarajan

And I must say that in the quarter gone by we did, we did see some rebound.

Pradeep Jain: That’s right

Avi Mehta

Okay perfect, this is very clear. And second is on the EBITDA margin . Now, you know I just wanted to understand you pointed towards benign input costs. Clearly , you're confident on the double-digit expectations for Prestige growth. In that context, how should we see EBITDA margin expansion with whatever you've done in the nine months? Is that the right trajectory in terms of expansion to take? If you could give us and share your thoughts on that as well, please?

Pradeep Jain

Yeah Avi, I mean, I don't want to give a guidance. I think the good thing at the end of nine months is we've expanded margin very, very handsomely, right? And you know our philosophy, you know the intent is always to expand a little bit of our margin, plough some part of that back into A&P to keep our growth flywheel absolutely intact and retain something in the P&L, right? So, that's the overall philosophy. Inflation, I do want to call out upfront. So, neutral alcohol spirit remains high single digit to low double digit right that is not moderating at all . In fact 4-5 days ago I did hear that the government is considering another price increase on ethanol, so therefore that could have a further headwind . Glass is what was neutralizing it , this is probably now the three quarters have past where glass is deflating . So, we will start lapping the low prices from probably February March onwards. So, therefore, sequentially it may not change, right? But in terms of the benefit versus prior year, where glass was neutralizing neutral alcohol spirit, will go away right. So, those are the two big things that I wanted to share. But like I said, you know our productivity muscle is functioning well. Our revenue growth management is overall functioning well. So, we will continue to chug along.

Avi Mehta

Okay Pradeep, I get it. So, if I were to paraphrase it, would it be fair to say you are more confident on margins versus last quarter? Would that be a better takeaway to take instead of numbers?

Pradeep Jain

When you say margins versus last quarter, you mean last...?

Avi Mehta

2Q what you shared on how you expect EBITDA margin expansion versus what you would see now?

Pradeep Jain

That’s fair, that’s fair. Absolutely. I mean, yeah I would agree completely right. Because nine months, whatever we've already landed, unlikely that will go away in one quarter yeah. So, be rest assured of that.

Avi Mehta

Perfect. Lastly, thanks a lot Hina for sharing your thoughts and driving such a strong performance in the Company. It has been a pleasure interacting with you and I wish you a lot of luck for your future endeavors.

Hina Nagarajan

Thanks so much, Avi, and thank you for your continued support to us.

Avi Mehta

Thank you.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Jay Doshi from Kotak. Please go ahead.

Jay DoshiKotak

Sorry, I'm just repeating what Avi also. I have got two questions. So, it's been a pleasure tracking USL’s progress under your direction, Hina and congratulations and best wishes for the global role. I have got two questions. One is there are some news articles that Delhi Government is considering changing the ordering system which may help the larger players and Pernod is not operating in Delhi. So, how should we think about this, if at all. And could you tell us a little bit about what your market share is in Delhi today, and on an absolute basis, where it stands versus the peak volumes that you are doing in Delhi ? That is one. Second is, there's an exceptional charge of Rs. 65 crores pertaining to Supply Agility program, how should we think about your employee cost structure, you know quarterly employee cost run rate, starting next quarter? This quarter is fine. I'm assuming it could be related to incentives pertaining to the last year. But how do we sort of model the benefit of this Agility Program.

Hina Nagarajan

Okay, Jay, first of all, thank you so much for your kind words and thank you for your continued support to Diageo India. Then I'll hand over to Pradeep to explain the employee cost, etc. So, on Delhi, Jay, I would say that we would not like to comment or speculate on the situation, right? We will operate as per the guidelines in the state. I mean, if you remember 2 years ago, when the route to market changed, and we said since then that our business became very small, a very small component of what it used to be, largely on account of the way the route-to-market is. So, it is a fraction of Pradeep where we used to be a couple of years ago. So, I mean, in your mind, if you believe that, are we getting some extraordinary benefit out of Delhi? Actually, we are not, it's quite small. So, let's wait to see how the situation evolves, and we will, should there ever be an opportunity , like we have demonstrated many times , whenever any route -to-market opportunity opens up, we are always very speedy and agile into getting into that opportunity and leveraging that opportunity. So, we will keep ourselves ready as and when we see the need to be. And Pradeep, over to you for the supply agility and…

Pradeep Jain

Yeah, so, Jay, I mean, there were 2 questions in the second part I thought, right? One is on the supply agility and the other is on the staff cost right. So, let me take the staff cost first. Look, you know where I want to start is that, I hope all of you will agree, we've been very, very disciplined over the years right. I think after 5 to 7 years of holding and optimization, now we believe that we've reached a steady state and if we try and do anything further, we'll start cutting into the muscle. So, therefore, we will need to invest in our organization for sustained growth . And during the quarter, a couple of things . One is, Andhra, we had exited completely. So, we have had to set up the supply organization and more important than that, the demand organization right. So, the demand organization is a large team right. Because it's a very, very salient state right. So, that impact has fully come in right. And also, you would have heard Hina and me talk historically that we do, as we go ahead, we do want to increase the contribution of innovation to our overall growth algorithm, right? So, therefore we are kind of strengthening the innovation commercialization team over the last three to four months as more and more innovation offerings come into the marketplace. So, I think those are the two reasons where you will see a steady state of employee cost investments, which will be in line with normal growing organizations requirements right. So, that's the bit on the investment part and also October - December our annual cycle is 1st October and 30th September. So, the full impact of the merit increases, which is absolutely in line with industry norms that has come into play. So, that's on the staff cost. Your point on supply agility, I mean the two are not linked . I mean a very, very marginal part of that might be linked because in the IndAS, the plant staff cost also goes into staff cost. But no, that's as part of our normal manufacturing footprint optimization. We have shut one of the units operationally, which was part of our supply agility program. And we have kind of already activated our third-party manufacturing unit in that stage. Does that help Jay?

Jay DoshiKotak

Understood. Thank you so much and good luck.

Hina Nagarajan

Thank you.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Harit Kapoor from Investec. Please go ahead.

Harit Kapoor

Yeah. Hi, good evening. So just, you know, once again just want to wish Hina all the best for her future role. And just one question on, just one point that Hina, you came in 4 years back and versus 4 years back versus now that you're exiting out of the country , do you feel like , you know,the regulatory environment, you know, versus what it was when you started off 4 years back has been increasingly conducive for the industry? I mean, just the near-term events of say, Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh, most likely of Delhi, you know, possibly hopefully something in Telangana from a receivable standpoint. Do you feel like as states are competing with each other for growth, it's actually, you know, you're exiting a much healthier, you know, better industry? And you know also, has advocacy been a very large component of getting there?

Hina Nagarajan

Yeah, firstly, thank you for your wishes. And I would say, yes, I feel so. I definitely feel that we have seen positive movement on the regulatory environment. The industry has rallied together. We've also, you know, taken a leadership role in advocacy. And , you know, as states have sort of, I mean, you would realize that Maharashtra rolled back , you know, taxes on the premium end, right, a couple of years ago. So, as states have started taking these positive steps, we've been able to go back to other states and demonstrate that this becomes a win -win situation for the state, and we have seen positive traction. So, I would say, Harit, I do leave feeling that yes, we are in a better place than we were when I came in.

Harit Kapoor

Great, great. Second question was slightly more hypothetical . We are in now, you know, in a quarter where you start to see certain excise policies starting to come through as well. From an advocacy perspective and given that you did, you guys did mention that the ENA prices are still inflationary. Is the advocacy also to drive states to consider more price increases from here? Is that something that will kind of go into your discussions? The context is overall inflation may not be as hard as it was probably 2-3 years back, but I just wanted to get your thoughts on that from an industry perspective.

Hina Nagarajan

Harit, absolutely. I mean I must say that , you know, two years ago when we saw a double-digit, a very high double-digit levels of inflation, even though we managed to secure pricing in that environment, it was hardly enough to cover not even 50% of that inflation , right. It was like 25%-30% of the inflation. So, we are still lagging inflation and therefore e very year our advocacy will continue to focus on getting the right levels of pricing for this industry. So, absolutely. my team is on it, and every time we have the excise cycle in any state, we are definitely going in, with both as industry and as a company, we are definitely going in to ask for more pricing.

Harit Kapoor

Got it, got it. And one last question was on the supply chain agility program. I remember a couple of years back in a discussion, I think there was a mention that, co-location as a percentage of the total manufacturing would be, the target at some point would be about 70%. So, I just wanted to kind of get back on that and check, where are we in that journey from going to 30 % to 70% on the colocation side? That's my last question.

Pradeep Jain

So, Harit, we'll anyway share an update on the Supply Agility program in the May Annual Call. So, hold your question till then. But I think I shared it last year also in the May call. The co - location part is already done and dusted right. There is still a little more of sponsored capacity that needs to come in in a couple of states. But I think broadly, we are somewhere in the middle of the two ranges that you mentioned . So, I think that should give you the answer to your question.

Harit Kapoor

Great. Those were my questions. Thank you, wish you all the best.

Hina Nagarajan

Thank you so much.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Krishnan Sambam oorthy from Nirmal Bang Institutional Equities. Please go ahead.

Krishnan Sambamoorthy

Yeah, hi team, good evening. One of the northern states was a significant detractor to growth in the second quarter. And from what we are gathering, things are relatively better there. Would you be in a position to say that the worst is over in that from that particular state perspective?

Hina Nagarajan

Yes, I would say yes, the problem in that state is by and large resolved and we are happy with where we are now.

Krishnan Sambamoorthy

In case of the popular segment growth, you have called out, and I'm assuming that is Karnataka, where there's been an excise reduction. Would it be possible for you to quantify how much was the benefit from Karnataka on a Y-o-Y basis for the popular segment for the quarter?

Pradeep Jain

No, so I mean, we don't do that Krishnan, right state-wise, but I think the overall look popular is such a small percentage of our overall business salience and we've called out, that from what last couple of quarters, we were shrinking at flattish to low single digit. And that 9% growth is largely the impact of a prior year comparative factor. In terms of absolutes, my sense is that the trajectory won't dramatically change. It will remain in that, flattish to probably a low single digit decline.

Krishnan Sambamoorthy

Okay thanks Pradeep, thanks Hina.

Moderator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to ask a question, please press “*” and “1”. The next question comes from the line of Arnab Mitra from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Arnab Mitra

Yeah hi. I had actually one main question on the top -end moderation and because this is quite contrary to what we've seen in every other consumer category where actually the top end is doing the best and everything else is struggling. So, I was wondering whether there is any geographical specific issue here and are you growing competitively? Has the entire category slowed down, or there is some kind of a competitive issue here also? So, just wanted to check on geography and competition for top-end?

Hina Nagarajan

I would say that there is a geographical issue here, we have seen overall moderation. And I think it is linked more to the consumer sentiment and macro environment rather than anything else. And we perform very competitively in this segment. And we continue to do that.

Arnab Mitra

Right. And any interventions that you think are needed from yourside to get the growth rates back up here? I'm just wondering whether affordability or more marketing or do you think it's just a macro and you probably don't need to change much here and wait for the consumer demand to come back?

Hina Nagarajan

No, I mean, we continue to invest in our brand building and build the equity of our brands, right? And some of our brands do have what we call the pocket pack, which is a smaller unit pack. So, I mean, for those who are sensitive to price points, even in that category, right, and want to put in a smaller absolute amount, pocket pack is actually doing quite well across the brands we have it. But other than that, I think we will have to just wait for the consumer sentiments to come back.

Arnab Mitra

Sure that’s it from my side. All the best.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of A bneesh Roy from Nu vama. Please go ahead.

Abneesh Roy

Just one follow -up. Essentially on Madhya Pradesh, the news of prohibition in the religious towns was there. I understa nd it's a small market. Would you be concerned if you could talk about any impact you see once the full list of cities comes? How big are those cities versus Madhya Pradesh and how big is Madhya Pradesh for you from a pan India basis?

Hina Nagarajan

So, Ab neesh, I would say that, you know, this kind of volatility is business as usual in our category. I mean, you followed it for a long time, and you know that we handle our business as a portfolio of states, right? So, there are pluses and minuses that happen in states every year. Pradeep Jain. Every quarter.

Hina Nagarajan

Every quarter actually. And you know what we do is where there is a minus we go and expand our reach and efforts in other states, and we get the pluses from there to deliver our overall sales. So, I would say the team is not worried. I think these things continue to happen in our industry. And you know even when it comes, we will deal with it and we will find other avenues for growth.

Abneesh Roy

And one last question, the last two years, particularly the innovation funnel has been very strong and most of them have done well. And now the leadership change will happen in around three months. So, now, the next 6 to 12 months, will the focus be more on ramp up of the brands or the innovations which have already been done because always there is a cycle where initially a lot of innovation happened and then consolidation happened. So, would you go more into the consolidation phase next 6 to 12 months, in terms of brand?

Hina Nagarajan

I would say it's an AND game, Abhneesh. See, our innovation pipeline is defined 2 to 3 years previously. So, whatever is in the pipeline will get launched. Equally, yes, we have very powerful innovations that have been launched. I mean, just to name Don Julio and X -Series, I talked about them. Definitely, the commercial team will be focusing on scaling these, including Smirnoff flavors, right. So, whatever is in the pipeline for launch will get launched. But equally the commercial team will be sort of focusing on scaling these in the salient markets, which are only still starting to roll out nationally.

Abneesh Roy

Thanks, that’s all from my side. Thank you.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Sanjay Manyal from DAM Capital. Please go ahead.

Pradeep Jain

So, right now the new crop is anyway on its way right and typically, you know, we get a handle of the new crop in about 30 to 45 days right , once it settles down in the market etc. So, we'll have a good sense of our neutral alcohol COGS going forward in the next 1.5 months, I would say, right? But we haven't picked up what you have just said about the FCI bit, but I'm sure we'll get a handle of that over the next…

Hina Nagarajan

And not only that, I think, I mean structurally, I think it's linked to the government's program of blending, right. So, on that, I think the government is actually enhancing the targets and pushing the agenda forward on that. And that is a key reason for driving the pricing of ethanol and therefore ENA. So, I think in the balance, we still see structurally inflationary sort of environment for ENA.

Sanjay Manyal

And if you also can give some color on the Godawan basically and other innovations which you have done, what kind of a success it has seen over the last year or so?

Hina Nagarajan

So, I talked a little, you know, bit about them. I think the key innovation is Don Julio, I would say, is doing extraordinarily well. It is growing from strength-to-strength. We are now in the top 20 cities odd, and we will be rolling out further. But I think tequila has huge traction in the country and Don Julio has global equity flowing through to India. So, we are super excited about Don Julio. X series, again, we are quite super excited. We launched in one market, and we saw very good tertiary for the offering. the products are getting very well appreciated, very good response. And therefore, you know, that's another, what I would say a big b ang innovation for us. Smirnoff flavors, again, very exciting consumer response. We've got the India palette flavors, Mirchi Mango, Minty Jamun and we've seen some really good response to these flavors. And then I wouldn't want to miss out, Royal Challenge the Pocket Packs, right? we were just talking about the environment being sort of moderate demand. These pocket packs are playing a huge role in penetration and overcoming the inflationary environment, and we have a very differentiated proposition in our pocket packs. So, that's also doing really well for all the brands that we are having in pocket packs. So, I would say our innovations are doing extraordinarily well. Godawan has made big strides. I mentioned it's probably now the most awarded Indian single malt. We launched in the UK in December. I was personally there to launch it and huge sort of appreciation for the purpose of the brand, for the quality of the product. And we are focusing our energies on really rolling out the brand market-by-market in India. So, we have sort of increased the distribution in the quarter gone by. We actually put it in Andhra as well last quarter. We've also launched a duty-free version of it which has just gone into Dubai duty -free and now rolling out in India duty free. So, that's also very exciting. And then we've done actually limited editions for some of the hotel chains like Taj. So, it's getting very good equity and acceptance in the country and outside.

Sanjay Manyal

Perfect, perfect. Thank you very much.

Moderator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Vishal from Yes Securities. Please go ahead.

Vishal

Thank you. Just wanted a small clarity on the income on the standalone basis. What's the reason for that? And is it because of deferment of dividend income? Or if yes, then could it be lower in the fourth quarter?

Pradeep Jain

Okay, your voice was not very clear, but I think I get the question. You're seeking in the standalone, what is the driver of the other income, right? So, the big driver is the dividend from Royal Challengers Bangalore right, our 100% subsidiary that houses the RCB Cricket Team and typically, I mean, their entire cycle gets completed around September-October. And therefore October-December is the right time for them to push out the surplus profits that they have through dividend to USL. So, that's what it is, and that's why if you will see the consolidated numbers, that gets eliminated.

Vishal

Understood. So that would be around 1.25 billion or so?

Vishal

So, next quarter obviously we won't be seeing that number, which was there last year.

Vishal

Thank you and thank you Hina for all the responses over the quarters. Thank you.

Hina Nagarajan

Thank you so much.

Moderator

Ladies and gentlemen, we take the last question from the line of Senth il Manikanthan from iThought PMS. Please go ahead.

Senthil Manikandan

Hi, good evening and thanks for the opportunity. Just one question. So, globally, we are seeing that the emergence of these weight loss drugs, GLP-I, things like that, its impact on the AlcoBev volume. So, it's a very nascent stage, I think, I understand. But I would like to hear your comments on this and how we are structured strategically. So, that's it.

Hina Nagarajan

Look, I would say at the moment, it is very small. I mean, globally, we are tracking the development of this category. And we don't see, today a structural impact on our category. And I would say even lesser so in India. So, but we do keep our eye on consumer trends, right? And we do keep an eye on trends that can impact our industry. So, at the moment, I would there is nothing for us to do structurally on account of this, but you know it's a wait and watch.

Hina Nagarajan

Thank you.

Moderator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Pradeep Jain for his closing comments.

Pradeep Jain

Thanks. Okay, before we close today's call, on behalf of the Diageo India family and the USL Board of Directors, and I suppose on behalf of all of you, I would like to thank Hina for her amazing 4 years in India. The performance and the numbers speak for themselves during the period. Hina became USL CEO and MD in July 2021, having joined Diageo in August 2018 as Managing Director of Africa Emerging Markets. Under her leadership, USL has combined strong top line growth and margin expansion with impactful strategic initiatives, reshaping and premiumizing our portfolio and positioning USL as an innovative leader in the AlcoBev industry. Under her leadership and the talented India team, we have achieved strong double digit CAGR growth in NSV year -after-year, while also improving profitability and performing competitively in the key segments in which we participate. The India business has rapidly transformed its portfolio in this period, disposing off the non-core brands and focusing on growth categories, while also accelerating premiumization and innovation. Launching Goda wan, our award-winning new artisanal Indian Single Malt, Royal Challenge American Pride, McDowell's X series and renovating all other core brands in the portfolio. During her tenure, India has become the third largest Diageo market for Johnn ie Walker trademark and the largest Diageo market for Black and White scotch. We have improved our sustainability leadership in India, achieving our water replenishment goals 3 years ahead of plan and exceeding our targets for positive drinking programs so that we are well positioned to meet a broader 2030 spirit of progress goals. Hina leaves in place a stronger gender diverse leadership team on the India Executive Committee. She has also strengthened engagement in the wider organization. We want to congratulate Hina on all these achievements. She leaves a solid record of success an d a motivated, dynamic, and talented management team. The good thing is that she will be very much in Diageo, and we wish her good luck and the best for both her personal and professional journey ahead. With that, we close today's earnings call and look forward to the annual call in May of 2025. I will also have the privilege of introducing Praveen to all of you in that call. Thank you and be well till then.

Hina Nagarajan

Thank you everyone. I really want to thank you for your continued support and belief in us these last 4 years. I know many of you had questions when I came in and there was even skepticism I would say on whether our strategy would work, but you've stood by us and you have encouraged us, supported us. And I would say even kept attention on us, which I really appreciated. I hope that you will continue to provide continued support to our business and that you will support the new CEO as much as you've supported me. Thank you once again. And of course, I'll be in touch whenever I'm in India, but..

Moderator

Thank you. On behalf of United Spirits Limited, that concludes this conference. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.