The first question comes from the line of Praveen Kumar with Equitas Capital Advisors.

I had a couple of questions. The first one was on the margin trajectory. Can you walk us through how do you expect the margins to behave from here onwards over the next 6 to 9 months? And then also over the next 2 to 3 years, can you walk us through what are the triggers? What are the near term and the midterm triggers for improving these margins? Or do you -- given what has happened on the procurement side and on the pricing side, do you think that margins are structurally reset downwards to some extent? That is the first question.

The second question was on Sid’s farms. Just wanted to understand the thought process behind that, why that 2% is very minor kind of stake, what is the thought process behind that? Third question was -- if I look at the ex...

I'm sorry to interrupt, Praveen, you're breaking up every now and then. Could you please change your location? And use your phone on the handset mode in case if it's not on handset?

Yes. It is on handset. Is it better now?

Yes, yes. Please go ahead.

Yes. So the third question was on the procurement growth adjusted for OSAM, that seems on a Y-o-Y basis, that seems to have grown around 5.3%. So, I just wanted to understand again that most of it has probably come from that Maharashtra scale up. So does i t mean that ex of Maharashtra, the other geographies, there hasn't been much of a procurement growth? Yes. Those are my 3 questions.

So, thanks Praveen. I'll answer the first 2 questions and the third question regarding procurement growth in OSAM and Maharashtra, B.V.K will answer. Margin trajectory, if you look at it, we are still confident that we will maintain between the 7% and 8% E BITDA margins, even in the current year that we are at, because like we were saying earlier, we were assuming that with the onset of monsoons, the procurement prices will taper down, but now seeming to be that there's not much of an increase in procurement in terms of the price what we normally expect. We will have to slowly pass on the prices to the consumers, which we have already started in the process. Regarding views on margins, we will start coming back to those between the 7% and 8%, subject to whatever is the one month of time that it consumes to pass on the prices. In the 2- to 3-year scenario that you asked, we are confident of maintaining similar profit margins as we go forward, predominantly because of a, when we look at it we're adding on Maharashtra, there is improvement expected from OSAM. These are mostly seas onal corrections and not structural in nature. Therefore, we are very confident within the 2 years -- 3 years, therefore, it is not a reset of the margins, but more a seasonal correction, that has been happening, that is a scenario. Now coming to the capital allocations to Sids Farm on a minor stake. It is basically for us more in terms of learning and keeping a closer watch on how the modern high-value the D2C products behave, because for example we believe that sort of consumption pattern to become a habit from a PAT, it will take significantly long-time and therefore, to test the pieces and such other pieces, that we have, we normally try to go as a learning it with another, rather than trying to create on our own. And if it is showing good trajectory and possibility, we will also know beforehand as to how it is progressing. So that is the intention of the capital in.Sids Farm Regarding procurement growth, B.V.K, sir will explain why and what is happening in Bihar, and it's not only Maharashtra, but also I think we have grown in Karnataka as well. But B.V.K will explain Bihar and other growth in procurement.

Yes. In OSAM -- see, if you see last year -- procurement last year, see, we don't have right data because we used to use a lot of powder and butter. Now we know that we are avoiding that powder and butter. And now first quarter now, more or less, we matched our sales to procurement. So, there is a slight growth, not much growth because we have done a lot of corrections more than the procurement. We are going for farmer payment model. That's why things are going very slow. But in Maharashtra, we have done a procurement growth. So last year to this year, Maharashtra, we have done a growth of -- overall growth we have done 13%. We have done a growth of 10% in Maharashtra also. And then Africa, we have done roughly about 28% procurement growth, in only procurement growth. That's all from the procurement side.

So actually, my question on procurement was that if I take out OSAM, adjusted for OSAM, the remaining unit procurement grew 5.3%, right? And when you are saying that Maharashtra grew around 10% and Africa grew 20-plus percent...

Maharashtra is part of DDL overall, but overall we have grown by 13.5%.

No, no, I understand that.

Almost it is flat. But Africa and India together, we have grown more than 13%.

No, no, I understand that.

India, we have grown only 3%.

Stand-alone only 3%, Praveen.

No, no, I understand that. I'm saying that ex OSAM. I mean, last year, Q1 FY26 did not have OSAM, right? Then your procurement was around 18.7, correct, around? Right? And this year, if I take...

I'll tell you the breakup, Praveen. Just give me a minute. So out of 18.7 months, the current year more than 21.13. The breakup of Dodla Dairy India, 16.75, now increased to 17.23, that is 3% of growth. Then oversees from 1.96 to 2.52, that's 28.5% of growth. For HR Foods, last year, we don't have it. Now we have 1.39 totally. So, the overall growth comes to 13%.

I understand that. I'm saying if from the 21.1, if I take out OSAM 1.39. Around 19.7 correct?

Exactly.

Right. So that 19.7, I'm comparing it to the last year, 18.7, right? I'm saying that is a growth of 5.3%, which has mostly Maharashtra and Africa looks like, right? So my question was...

Mostly from Africa, followed by Maharashtra.

It's not degrown, it's maintained the same, because it's again the summer months of the growth.

Okay. And do you expect this kind of a trend to continue where you don't expect much of a growth from the existing geographies and largely Africa, Maharashtra and Bihar is what will drive?

So basically, what happens is also what we play with pricing, because sometimes with the pricing of the particular state in comparison with other states are lower or higher, we try to manage as a blend of all the sales procurement. For example, Andhra is becoming more competitive and the prices are going higher. There, we are not expanding capacity or improving and waiting to see if it can be -- the pricing is going too high. And in certain areas where the pricing is more conducive to us, because of our tra nsport and being closer to the places where we operate, we enhance there. So, it's a blend of what we do also that plays into the role.

The next question comes from the line of Aniruddha Joshi with ICICI Securities.

Yes. And sir, two questions. So can we largely assume that the worst in terms of margins is largely behind. And in a way from here on, either there should be stability or there should be recovery depending on the milk procurement prices? Also, have we largely passed on the entire increase in procurement prices as well as fuel prices increase via selling price hikes or still we need to take some round of further price hikes? And then second question on the balance sheet. We have seen, there is a drastic increase in goodwill and intangibles of almost INR250-odd crores. So, I guess it's related to OSAM acquisition, but any plans for writing it off? And if it is written off, is there any tax benefit available on that?

So the first question, B.V.K will answer regarding our margin profile, you had asked for. And I think the balance sheet B.V.K -- sorry, Murali will answer it. Yes, sir. Go ahead.

Yes. Aniruddha, now see Africa, we have done whatever procurement hike was there be compensated with the sales increase also. That is number one. And Orga also, what we have done slightly already 70%, 80% raw material price increase versus sales price correction, we've already done it. Only in Dodla, DDL also, we waited till July first week with normally and now from July onwards procurement goes up normally, prices will come down. So this year, it has not happened. That's why now we have already done corrections mostly from 15th onwards , and most of the corrections are done. We are very confident that we'll get back to the same or last year, like 7% to 8% margin, margin profile.

With regard to the tangible, basically, like OSAM, we have INR100 crores of goodwill is there, apart from that around INR150 crores of branding is there. So based on that, we have allocation impairment of whatever it is there. But it's a standard fair value of amortization. There is no any surprises of reduction in the fair value.

So therefore, Anirudh, we will not be providing anything for write -offs in the impairment of assets. And as B.V.K was saying, we expect that the worst is behind us in terms of the procurement prices coming to our stability. I don't think they'll further in crease dramatically, marginal corrections might happen, but we will have to take it in the correction to the consumers.

Okay. Sure, sir. Sure, sir. This is very helpful. Just last question from my side. We have seen many players, especially in South India, are focusing very aggressive on ice cream segment and are setting up large plants also. So considering the investments and the growth in ice cream segment, there is a possibility that there is a solid growth in the industry. So, what will be Dodla Dairy stance on in a way, participating in the growth possibility for ice cream, as an industry? And if yes, what will be the capex or the investment plans on that? Yes, that's it from my side.

Right now, we don't have any plans of a major ice cream expansion as a capital expansion. We have also seen reasonably good traction in our ice cream volumes, which thankfully due to summer has done very well for us. I think we still have some leftover capacities, because we can also produce ice cream previously during the season to stock for selling at the peak summer season. So, we are waiting to see how it pans out for us in the current year and maybe such the decisions will be made not currently, but hopefully in the future. So our growth has been from INR16 crores to INR22 crores in the first quarter itself. So we think once we see this year panning out and then we'll make plans. Currently, we do not have any plans for major expansion.

The next question comes from the line of Darshita Shah with DSP Asset Managers.

My first question is regarding the quantum of the price hikes. B.V.K, sir mentioned, we have done some corrections from July 15 onwards, if you could just mention the quantum over the INR2 price hike that we took last quarter, how much incremental price hike we've taken now?

So, I think from the Q1 to Q1, if you compare the price increases, we have done an average price increase in Dodla for almost 2% increases in the consolidated, Dodla being around 1.4%, and Africa being around 4%. I think currently, we look at another around 2%, 2.5% correction in the prices in the ongoing quarter that we look at. So effectively, I think current year, we should look at 4%, 5%.

The 2.2% is in stand-alone Dodla or Africa and Dodla put together?

The total represents, all put together, Dodla alone was around 1.4% currently, but we think we will take another 2%, 2.5% there.

Darshita, this is only milk realization price, we're talking, not the blended.

Yes, yes, yes. Okay. And secondly...

Got it. Clear. And secondly, on the volumes, how do you expect the volume growth to be for the year? First quarter, of course, we have done quite well. But how do you expect it to be for the full year, considering the price hikes that we are taking in?

Maintain our normal steady, I think the 8% to 10% in India as volume growth and the price hikes will add to the value growth. So, that's what we look at.

Okay. So, there is no change on the 8% to 10% volume growth number, despite the price hikes?

Yes.

The next question comes from the line of Yash Goenka with Awriga Capital Advisors LLP.

Am I audible?

Yes.

Sir, my question is on pricing. What are the price hikes taken by competitors in the region, we are operating? And have you seen competitors taking price hike in Tamil Nadu?

Price hike like in Tamil Nadu cooperative Amul has taken a price hike in the ghee, and Nandini has taken price hikes in ghee and the national cooperative had taken a price hike earlier in milk. We anticipate also they will also be forced to take price hike s, it's not currently in a matter of time. So, we are -- in spite of that, we are continuing with our required the price hikes that we'll have to take. However, we do not know when, but I'm sure they will have to take because the differential is becoming large. And we are seeing pressure coming on the ground in terms of their payments to be made to their back-end farmers is getting delayed.

Okay. And sir, what is your price gap today with these cooperatives?

Almost averaging, because depending on product or whatever, I think between Tamil Nadu will be the highest with almost more than INR10 price gap. And in Karnataka, it might be INR6, INR7 price gap. So those are the only 2 areas, where we have a significantly large price gap to the cooperatives.

Okay. And the second question would be what kind of price hikes have you taken in the region where your market share is stronger compared to the ones, where your market share is weaker?

Basically, in terms of absolute number, it will be around INR2 price increases that we have taken, as a correction across.

The next question comes from the line of Abhishek Mathur at with Systematix Group.

Sir, you have mentioned in the presentation that you expect the 2Q milk procurement cost to normalize in the second quarter. What is leading you to sort of expect this? Is it only the

improvement in the milk supply in Maharashtra? Or are there other drivers due to which you are seeing a normalization milk procurement cost? Also, if you can help with what was the average procurement cost that you saw in the June month? And what is the procurement cost that you saw in the July month also? That's my first question.

So basically, what we mean the normalization is whatever the price hikes that I have will maintain the same. We won't see a decline in the procurement prices, what the normalization means. I think the specific number in terms of what the price of milk will almost the same, in terms of June and July, I think if you want a specific number of prices that we are...

Basically, average is around INR41, now also it is rounded around INR41.20, more or less.

See, last 2 months in the month of May, June, July, overall procurement cost is stand still. So it is in the same level. Only we have done a sales correction average INR2 per liter milk and VAP, we have done INR3 to INR4 correction.

Got it, sir. That's helpful. Secondly, just a bookkeeping question. If you can help with the numbers for the consol overall realization for 1Q, the VAP consol realization and the stand - alone and Africa realizations, all for 1Q, please?

One minute. Murali will give you those numbers of 1Q for realization that we have.

So our overall realization of the milk is per liter?

No sir, overall consol, including milk, VAP and everything?

Yes, overall consol is INR62.78 last year. Current year is INR61.78, because the bulk was there in the last year. So if you exclude the bulk, last year is INR59.82, current year it is INR61.78.

And for VAP sir, VAP consol?

VAP consol. It is basically excluding the fat, it is INR64.11 for the current year, last year INR61.32, fat product this current year quarter INR 604, last quarter it was only INR4498.

Right. And finally...

Fat products?

Yes. Only butter and ghee.

And lastly, sir for standalone and for Africa, what are the realizations?

I will give you a stand -alone. You see Africa, even Kenya and Uganda, average realization is INR65.

Yes, last quarter to this quarter, no, I'll give you comparison. So last year, if you see Uganda, we were at INR59.36. And this quarter, INR65.31. And similarly, even in Kenya also, we were at INR58, now we at INR65.

Got it, sir. And finally, for stand-alone?

Standalone, overall excluding the bulk products and fat product it is INR59.99 to INR61.36, India standalone and overall including VAP products it is INR59.02 to INR60.88. And including the bulk, it is INR63.24 of last April, INR60.88 of current year.

The next question comes from the line of Darshit Vora with Asit Mehta Institutional Equities.

Yes. And congrats on the strong growth in revenues. My first question actually is that if you look VAP sales, ex of milk and curd, the growth has been somewhat lower when compared to historical growth rate that we've seen. So any particular reason for that?

Basically, for the other VAPs considered to be as much smaller, right? The major contribution thus come from curd. So even if you can see curd slightly increasing, it will be better. But I think I'll just check the numbers, but like ice cream and paneer, we have done much better in terms of growth like INR14 crores last quarter to INR22 crores this quarter. I think remaining expenses specific number in VAP minus curd is what we achieved.

So, in milk, we have grown 14.47%. In the curd and curd products, we have grown by 41.43 % and the VAP, other VAP products is 35.62 %. In the fat and fat products, which we reduced it, there is a degrowth of 46%, okay? In the consumer. And apart from that, we have exited completely from the bulk sale, which was the negative, that is around INR57 crores, which was there in the last quarter, we don't have done this.

Curd, we look at curd and curd product, it's not only curd that we talk about, but we talk about buttermilk, lassis and other permitted products, which also do well for us.

All right. Got it. Okay. And secondly, if you look at the increased procurement and you have mentioned that the procurement is not going to slow down from here onwards. So do we see bulk sales coming back? And if yes, what kind of quantum are we looking at?

I think this year, there won't be enough quantity of bulk sales, we will have to be net buyers of commodity required, because this is oppositely of the flush season, where we should have seen a surge in the volume growth of 20%, 25% which is not happening and maintaining more of an even key. with that we don't have much of bulk sales available for this year.

All right. All right. Great. Just final question. I just wanted the curd sales in INR terms for the quarter.

Curd sales in INR terms for India, including all the curd products will be at ...

Yes, INR333.96 crores for the current quarter.

Does that answer your question, Darshit?

Yes.

The next question comes from the line of Resha Mehta with GreenEdge Wealth.

Yes. Sir, would you like to -- I mean the first quarter consolidated growth has been very good, right? So would you like to give some revenue guidance for the full financial year, consol revenue growth?

We will again target the 10% of volume growth and 15% of revenue growth that we keep targeting. We might have a minor corrections here and there, but consolidated we will give the same guidance of 10% of volume and 15% by revenue.

Right. And can you talk about your stand -alone VAP growth in terms of revenues for the last financial year FY26 versus FY25 and also for the current quarter, which is Q1 of FY27 versus Q1 of FY26?

So you want FY25 whole year comparison and the current quarter comparison, ma'am?

Yes, yes. Correct.

I think Murali will give you that in terms of the whole year and the current year, he will start with the current quarter...

Current quarter, India, I'll talk about first. So current quarter growth with regard to the value, it is around 4.9% in the milk and 34% in the curd and curd products.

And VAP revenues, revenues, stand-alone VAP revenues, yes, for the said timing. Yes.

From INR245 crores to INR332 crores, excluding bulk.

Sorry, 300?

INR332 crores.

INR332 crores. INR245 crores versus INR332 crores? Okay. So that's a 36% VAP growth in the standalone, right? Okay. Okay. Got it. And for FY26 versus FY25, broadly you have the growth numbers?

Yes, yes. So INR769 crores of last year to current year, INR842 crores. These are excluding the ghee and butter of the either consumer or the bulk, I'm talking about pure VAP . Fermented products. Consumer ghee, last year, we had INR81 crores, it is INR106 crores.

Sir, if I look at your milk sales volumes, you are excluding OSAM. So they have dropped to now around 5%, which we were growing at around 8%, 9% for the last 2, 3 quarters. So this quarter, even after Africa has grown strongly, why is there a drop in milk sales volume? And if you could just split the milk sales volume between India and Africa, how much have been?

Normally, milk sales does not increase much in summer, because people use more of the products than milk itself. And I think in the coming quarters, the milk sales will now grow a bit more and keep it as come back to normal trends. And also the price diffe rences increased in terms of the milk prices. We normally try to sell more of a higher realization, milk cannot go down push much of a lower realization milk products. I think giving a comparison of what milk was in terms of -- in absolute terms in Africa and India, Murali will give you the specifics in terms of the milk quantity of Africa and India.

Yes. Milk volume we done around 10.4 lakh current quarter. Last quarter, it was 10.25, there is a minor increase in milk like sir said, it is fiscal year this summer. And with regard to the milk of overseas Africa last year, we've done 161,000, as against we've done current quarter 214,000, that is around 33% of growth was there in the milk itself.

Understood. And now sir, you had mentioned that cooperatives have taken price hikes in the ghee and butter, but what about liquid milk? So, what kind of price hikes have they taken versus against us?

So basically, I think the certain cooperatives have not taken a price hike. The national cooperatives like Amul and Mother Dairy have taken the price hike. We are anticipating that even in the Southern cooperative should take a price hike, like I said earlier in other question for example, I was facing pressure of not taking the price hikes, therefore, not being able to pay on the suppliers on time. And therefore, they will be bound to increase the pressure, which is showing in terms of when I think there was a newspaper article, I cannot confirm it, but certain higher loss -making milk SKUs they were not able -- they were not supplying and they withdr awn certain higher loss - making SKUs from the market. So, I think with those indicators, we should think that there will also be forced to take the price increasing.

But do you think that would constraint...

I'm sorry to interrupt, Aditya. I would request you to rejoin the queue. The next question comes from the line of Ankit Shah with White Equity Investment Advisors.

Sir, for Africa, can you give the procurement volumes split between Kenya and Uganda for Q1?

Procurement volume in Uganda, Q1 was 154,000 liters, as against 129,000 of previous year. And if you take Kenya, and Kenya also last year we have done procurement only Q1 now 96,000, 97,000 we have done. And last year, we have done 66,000, a jump of 46% in Kenyan procurement growth. And Uganda, we have done only procurement growth is 19%. Majorly, we have done good growth in Kenya.

And sir, what are the utilization levels here?

Kenya, now we are almost utilizing now 80% utilization in Kenya, because we have installed capacity is only 1.5 lakhs. Now we're already doing 1.1 lakhs. So hardly we have the another 20%, 30% gap. But in Uganda, see, since because we are targeting over th ere, we have grown yogurt also good quantity there. And that's why now we are planning for Greenfield projects. Uganda also is a full capacity actually.

Right. Sir, you mentioned realization increase from 61 to 65. So this realization is the blended realization 65 for Q1. And from this, should we see further margin improvement in Q2, as a fallout of this?

So, I think the first quarter, price that we have seen will be there. But as the seasonality comes in procurement prices in Africa also increase in the second quarter. So, it will not be a continuous amount of the same, but we will not use profitability, depending on monsoon we will taper down and then again bounce back.

The next question comes from the line of Sucrit Patil with EyeSight Fintrade.

My first question to Mr. B.V.K Reddy is beyond the regular outlook, what are the top 2, 3 execution priorities you are focusing on in the next few quarters? And alongside that, what do you see as a biggest risk in consumer demand shift or competitive press ure and how are you preparing to manage them while still strengthening Dodla's position in the dairy products and value-added offerings? That's the first question. And then second question after this.

See, if you see overall Dodla Africa, now we don't have, we are towards edge only. So maybe normally, we do the better results in the first quarter and fourth quarter, slightly, second and third quarters slightly margins. But whatever target, what we have taken a target budget that we will 100% we'll achieve as far as Africa is concerned, volume as well as EBITDA. And feed also now we are almost we have done first quarter also more than 25% growth. And EBITDA levels also now slightly there is purchase price of raw material pressure is there. But even then feed also, we are very confident, but just the numbers, both EBITDA as well as volume both we will achieve. And the DDL in India also we have done lot of corrections. And milk we have done earlier in the month of April, May itself we have done INR1, more than INR1 correction we have done. And then we have already taken INR2 correction, and VAP, we have done INR3 to INR4 correction.

So, I don't see, there will be always a pressure because I don't say there won't be any pressure. But clearly, it is indicating that the El-Nino was the impact, weather pattern, because of that only is the issue or otherwise no things would have been better. See there's not much of inventory, that's why there's a pressure. That's all.

Otherwise, price correction...

Sorry, sorry. Please go ahead.

Yes, that's what I said because of the El-Nino, because of weather pattern, the procurement the anticipated level, it is not there, that's why there is a pressure, but we have already done corrections.

My second question to Mr. Murali is from a financial point of view, what key risks or challenges do you anticipate in the coming quarters? And what specific measures are being taken to manage margins, cash flow and balance sheet strength, especially in are as like raw milk procurement cost, receivables and regulatory compliance?

Yes. So basically, its depends on how much you could be able to pass it on the cost inflation to the consumers. It also depends on the planning of the inventory, the procurement and the sales and also how the other competitors are playing in the field. The se are things, which we need to capture, okay? Based on that, we will plan overall an absolute amount, we also grow in the EBITDA percentage. That is one thing. And with regard to the cash flows, we are a debt-free company. We have around INR650 crores in the balance. And we also see where we've been able to optimize the return on capital employed, that's where we are working towards. And as of now, we are funding internal accruals for the OSAM, for the Africa and as well as for the Maharashtra. And we don't have any major issues in accounts receivable. Basically, the cash and carry business, okay, our average DSO is around 1.5 days to 2 days, what we are doing. And payables, every 15 days, we will pay to the farmers and all the transport and other payments we'll do it on a monthly basis. So, we don't foresee any issues in the payables or the receivables. And the inventory, based on the movement of the prices increase or decrease in global situation, we play the inventory game. Hope, I covered all the things.

The next question comes from the line of Hitaindra Pradhan with Maximal Capital.

Just had one question and wanted to get your perspective on the VAP portfolio, especially for curd and paneer. So sir, what happens to the price...

You're breaking up, sir.

Sir, is it better now?

Yes. So just had one question on the VAP portfolio. So sir, what happens to the pricing and the working capital situation on the VAP portfolio in this environment and the procurement is somewhat stretched. I mean in terms of pricing, in terms of margin and the working capital, if you can give us some color what happens to the VAP portfolio?

You're breaking up a little bit. So I'll repeat the question before I give the answer. So, one thing is you wanted to see what the VAP portfolio's impact based on the pricing of milk is going to be? And the second is regarding the inventory buildup that will happen in terms of milk pricing. If that is the true for the questions, I'll answer accordingly, sir.

Yes, yes.

Basically, the VAP does not going to be procurement prices and VAP transmission has already happened and it has been done. So whatever was the milk procurement price to VAP realizations we had passed on the pricing to the consumer and that will continue to be there. But majority, as you know, VAP will have a higher offtake during season and will come down during the off- season. So, I think during the off season, as we grow in the procurement prices remain the same and VAP remains in the profitability and VAP will continue. Regarding inventory, we still have to wait and watch. I don't think we have insufficient inventory buildup happening for us on our own come for the next year. We might have to end up being a net buyer. It will not affect our working capital as such because we are -- we don't have any -- we have limits, but we don't drawn our limits, because we have internal accruals to the INR600 crores also post our capital expansion. If required, we dig into our own reserves for our working capital requirement. And I don't think we'll need much working capital requirement, because the same scenario of milk actually even out and not surging high or low. I think in the coming days, we might see that our own milk procurement, because we built out our infrastructure also for a larger requirement for our new expansion, that we are doing. I think we will not be having that much of an inventory buildup.

The next question comes from the line of Abhishek Kanithi with Nivaka Ventures Private Limited.

Can you hear me?

Yes, Abhishek, sir.

Actually, I just wanted -- I'm new to this company. So like I'm just trying to understand. So like if we take like 3 years down the line, how would our portfolio look like in terms of like how would you see Africa percentage of the revenue contribute to the revenue versus like how would you think the VAP would change over the next 3 years? So these both. And also Agro growth, yes, these both. And also like agro.

So, again, you're breaking up, Abhishek, I'm presuming you're saying how is the breakup going to be between the Africa revenue and India revenue in the next 2 to 3 years that you are anticipating?

Yes.

I think our revenue contribute around 10%, and they will continue to be in the same trajectory of 10% in terms of maintaining it, because the larger pie is the Indian operation, even though a little bit of growth in Indian operation. Africa has to grow substantially large to compensate the Indian growth pie to become more than that. But the 10% in comparison with India growth also means it's a reasonable growth in Africa. That is the reason we are expanding our capacities also in Africa as much as we are doing in India. I think we're growing in tandem with the capital allocation and we expect the operational return. It will be the same for the next 2 to 3 years, unless we get some brand new opportunities or acquisitions, which are not there on the horizon, but it's something ever happens, it might change. Currently, we will maintain the same scenario. So that is where it will be for us.

Sir, and in the Indian dairy business, how do you see the VAP moving.

We're normally targeting the same, because the base is increasing. We look at it as a 10% of volume and inflation in India has always been around 4% to 5%, that keeps adding. So to maintain this 10% by volume is what we have invested in Maharashtra, and we have taken over OSAM as a larger scale expansion. So maybe in 1 year or 2 year, we might brought to 7%, 8% or some years, we might go to 10%, 12% by volume, but 10% of volume is what we target for.

So just to add,Dodla India we are around 70% to 80%, right? And the overseas will be around 15%, OSAM will be around 8% to 10%. That is a dairy mix.

The next question comes from the line of Bhavesh Jain with DD Investment Advisors.

Yes. Am I audible?

Yes, sir.

Yes. So just wanted to ask India standalone business for the past 4, 5 quarters has been on mid- single-digit growth. So just wanted to understand and have your outlook on how do you expand growth from the core markets? And how do you -- how much growth you expect from the newer markets of let's say Bihar and Maharashtra?

So, I think our core markets we will try to be maintaining our market share more consistently, sir, because our core markets like we explained being if you look at it from the Karnataka or Tamil Nadu side, the price differential between the cooperatives an d other already significant and we don't want to keep pushing it further and that is why we do more of geographical expansion.

It is also proportionate with the correction measures that will be taken by the cooperatives, if the cooperatives do take a significant large price corrections, that had happened in the previous years, we will also be able to get more market share there an d continue with our market share increase. But currently, it is because of the higher which we will not get block more entry into the HoReCa or the local shops because of the price differences. We will try to maintain our market share. Maharashtra will be predominantly our milk balancing procurement operation for us. We only have a 2 lakh liter kind of local market sale that we'll be looking at the local area. Similarly, I don't think OSAM will be growing at 100% kind of rate, because there also, there will be competition. So that's the reason of the overall blend that we look at, we look at a 10% growth in India by volume. The local areas being around maintaining market share would be 5% to 6%. Newer territories would add more to that, and therefore, we'll maintain 10%.

The next question comes from the line of Manish Jain with GormalOne LLP.

Wanted to congratulate you on the great work that you all have done on direct procurement, in fact that is getting hidden in the numbers that you have shared. So especially the kind of market share gains that you all have done from leading competing dairy companies in the area you're operating in. So really came to understand how you all are managing to create a very powerful procurement in your areas in India? And what is the share of direct farmer payment that you're doing?

Of course, 100% that we do, sir. Maybe there is some technical errors, it might be different. But otherwise, it's a very insignificant otherwise, we can consider almost 100% direct farmer payment that we do. Regarding what you said as the strength, I think it is more of the human talent that we have to develop in terms of the number of people involved, because unique in its nature. It's like no marketing in the front end, obviously, it is a brand or an operation, it is similar in the back end. The team make s a lot of -- to keep the team active, to keep the team more involved where it goes. And I think in the days to come is also being ahead of the curve in terms of the new things that happen, right? For example, if you look at direct procurement payment, we or other companies were one of the earlier leaders who went in early and then were ab le to convert it to all the farmers. So, I think every time where there is something new that is being aware and continuing to becoming better and better. I think qualitatively, we've also taken a significant large number of measures MRP to be improved. It's more an internal drive, rather tha n external pressure and as long as the internal drive continues to be there, and the team is well focused and stay as well, it will continue to grow.

So, I think for us, per animal is a different data, because we're not able to get significant data tracking animal wise, it depends on regions and certain areas the animal productivity increases, certain areas it might not. I think we will in the days to c ome, it is there. But if you look at the farmer average, the farmer average is being increasing steadily. Over the past decade, it's moved up significantly per farmer production. Animal data is very difficult to pinpoint and project. But yes, we do where some states where the per productivity of animal has gone up and for certain initiatives we have taken, when we're giving good quality feed, the farmers who are buying feed from, let's say, Dodla dairy cattle feed are doing around 14 liters per farmer, as an average, which a non -Dodla feed consumer is only able to do around 11 liters per farmer average. So, I think these initiatives also helped in terms of improving productivity.

Ladies and gentlemen, we will take that as the last question for today. I would now like to hand the conference over to the management for the closing remarks.

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Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of Dodla Dairy Limited, that concludes this conference call. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.