Thank you. The first question comes from the line of Chana Mallu, an individual investor.

My question is, since last many years, I had been observing that the achievement of management is very dismal. Loan book size decreased drastically, negative growth...

I'm sorry to interrupt. Sir, you're not quite audible. Your voice is muffled. Could you please use your phone on the handset mode, in case if it's on hands-free.

Yes. Since last many years, I had been observing that the achievement of management is very dismal. Loan book size decre ased drastically. Negative growth in revenue, negative growth in profit after tax. Almost in all parameters, the performance of the management is negative. What is the output of the management? What is the benefits for the investors who invested their hard- earned money in this company?

What are your questions, sir? Can you hear us? This is Rajiv Malhotra. Can you hear us? This is Rajiv Malhotra. Just want to know what is your precise question?

Sir, there is no total good performance from the company since last many years. Loan book size is decreasing, revenue growth is decreasing and the profit after tax is decreasing. So what is the output of the company management for the investors who invested their hard-earned money. So, totally, all the investors are in a negative benefit from this company, sir.

The track record or whatever you are speaking about, that point is taken. Right now, is there a query that I can answer, give you clarity on as to where we move from h ere or what we can do with our investors' money.

The first part of your statement is taken, sir, that indeed, there has been a period which is not very encouraging for investors. It has not been there. To the second part, let me address that upfront. There is no lack of intent by the management currently or anyone in the recent time to see that your value actually grows in this company.

I had invested 185,000 shares in this company, sir. I've purchased 185,000 shares. I'm worried about my investment. At least please divest at early stage. Please inform to the parent company to divest the company at early stage that some good management will come and save our investment, sir.

Let me just reiterate our position here. One, the management team is equipped to build value for this company. You have given me a certain figure of how much you invested. We are not for a minute trying to belittle the seriousness with which you would have invested. I can only assure you stay invested, we will deliver value as we come in the next few quarters.

The next question comes from the line of Ranjap Singh, an individual investor.

My question is to this management. How do you see the future of this company? The way it's going down the hill, it looks like you are winding up the business. There is no return for the investor. There is -- company is not making money growing, or you are sitting on the cash, but you are not making a meaningful loan disbursement. So how do you see that this company will grow and the return will come to the investor? You are having the cash, but you are very reluctant to disburse even to the investors or giving some kind of dividend, neither you are giving us -- your performance is giving any hope to us nor we are getting any money out of it. So it's basically high risk -- no, nothing like a high risk giving a small gain. So how do you see the performance of this company going forward? Do your company will make INR 150 crores turnover tomorrow? Answer i s no, it doesn't look that way. So I don't know whether you are making us for granted. And we are not here to pay the, say, like money for all these management team and one comes and one takes a salary and goes. It's basically we are also looking for retur n. So we are losing hope. So can you give us a hope? And can you tell us that when you will give us the dividend or when you will return to that position that you can give us a dividend or we can make money at the stock exchange?

Mr. Singh, thank you for the question. My request to you and to everyone else is, one, keep the question short. We have got a background. We've understood the sentiment from the first speaker on this conference. So repeating that is not really something which is efficient use of your time.

No, give us the data or give us the target. This kind of target we are likely to meet in quarters Q2, Q3, Q4. And if you don't meet that, then you are confirming that, yes, things are not good for the company.

Mr. Singh, allow me to respond. I have not interrupted at any point. So thank you for your patience. In more ways than one, yes, for reasons that are already there as part of public domain, we have given you a reason as to why the performance has not been what you may have expected.

You're asking me 2 or 3 questions in one go. One, when do you think we will pay out a dividend? The answer is, I cannot answer the dividend question today. Second, are we taking shareholders like you for granted? The answer is "NO". The management team is committed to creating value for you. Give us a couple of quarters, the next 3 quarters, and you will watch things moving yourself. Now whether you will see growth for dividend, leave that to our judgment in that point. We are here to create value for you. How do we create that value? Let me spend half a minute explaining that to you. We are here to use the money -- the cash that you say we are sitting on, to grow the business, to grow the business by investing in diffe rent infrastructure projects; different size, different sectors of the infrastructure. We believe that the India infrastructure story is good for at least the next decade, if not the next 2 decades. There's plenty of opportunity for this company to create value for its shareholders, allow us to do that. You've been patient, be patient for at least the next 2 to 3 quarters. Our numbers will speak for themselves. Having said that, I will, at this point, not make any further specific statements, but this is the general direction in which you will see us going. Thank you.

The next question comes from the line of Suyash Bhave with Wealth Guardian.

Sir, over the last few quarters, the previous executive had mentioned some issues regarding fundraising where we are not able to raise funds at competitive rates. How do you see that going forward?

I've understood your question. What you're saying is that you got a feel from us that we will have a problem raising funds?

On the borrowing side, some -- in the previous few quarters, there was a commentary regarding that cost of funds is high for us, and we are not able to get funds at lower rates. So I want to know what is the outlook on that and any strategy around that?

There are 2 parts to your statement. One, that the cost of funds is higher; two, that we are not able to raise funds, right? That's what -- there are 2 parts of that statement.

Yes. Yes. Yes.

Directionally, I don't see how or why we will not be able to raise funds. Cost is something that is part of our strategy. Given a certain cost of funds, it means only what we are going to be addressing in the near and then in the longer term as we progressively reduce our costs. What are the efforts we are making on the ground, just to give you a feel before you actually kind of see that in the numbers, I'll ask Dilip Srivastava to just add to what I said.

Yes, sir. As I already explained that as of no w, we have sufficient liquidity in our system. So taking -- I mean, although we don't have a -- as of now sanction, but we have been taking up with the various institutions and things are in a positive direction. Maybe before end of next quarter, we should be having some sanctions in our hand for the new additional facilities.

And as far as cost of borrowing is concerned, cost of borrowing also, we have been aggressively chasing up with the existing lenders to reduce the cost of borrowings as well as for t he future borrowings, we have taken in our mind to maintain the least cost of borrowing so that it should be sustainable for us for the future business.

The next question comes from the line of Hukam Singhal, an individual investor.

Sir, I just wanted to know about this balance of NPA, what is the progress in that one NPA that was left. It was expected to be resolved during first quarter or near about that. So could you please tell us?

So, we have invited from the management team, Mr. Srinivas, who is looking after the resolution of stressed assets. So I'm just requesting him to respond to this question.

Good evening. This is Srinivas here. As far as this one NPA account is concerned, we are trying to have it resolved through the NCLT process where our application is pending admission. I think the resolution as per the IBC norms, the resolution process will commence once the account is admitted, which we are expecting sometime during the course of this quarter.

Okay. Another thing I just wanted to know that disbursal, you are expecting a higher disbursal during the last quarter, this 30th June. So, what happens on the new disbursals, they're very low?

I'm requesting Sanjeev ji to respond to this question.

Sir, your voice was not very clear. Can you just repeat the question once?

During the quarter 1, disbursals were expected to be higher, around INR1,000 crores or something like that, but there were very low disbursal of loans. Could you please tell us what happened, why the disbursal was so low?

Yes, sir, I like to throw light on that. We have been expecting something around INR1,000 crores disbursal in Q1. In fact, Q4 of l ast year and Q1 of this year, including we were expecting disbursal of INR1,000 crores. But this is an infrastructure financing sector where the disbursal takes in phases. Some disbursals, which were supposed to be back -to-back after sanction, has got del ayed because of certain sectors which we had been sanctioning and for international market, say, scenario, their construction has been delayed, like say, some gas or some oil -producing companies, we have sanctioned a few loans, which were expected to be disbursed, but they have not done their constructions as per their schedule. So it has got delayed. So it is converting -- it will be converting to disbursement in this quarter as soon as they will get their own contribution and construction at that stage where we can go for disbursement. So this is not gone out. We have sanctioned and we will be disbursing this quarter. Apart from that, the delay what have happened last quarter, you see we have been recalibrating our leadership team, you might be knowing that there was some gap there, while our last MD has gone out and new

MD joined the management team was recalibrating at that time. So certain decisions were also taken later. So this quarter, you'll see the effect of delays what happened in the last quarte r. So we have already sanctioned more than INR1,000 crores, but I have already described in first month itself, another pipeline of similar type is also there for subsequent months. So the delay is there, but not -- it has not gone out of our pocket.

So, could we assume sir, this is the lowest loan book size and it will increase in further quarters?

See, we expect our book size or you can say our asset under management, AUM, to be something around INR5,000 crores by the end of this financial year. That's what we are targeting.

The next question comes from the line of Ranjap Singh, an individual investor.

May I request to Mr. Rajiv to give a status on NPA as well as divestment.

So the status on the NPA, I think the sole account that is NPA, we've just spoken. I'll ask Srinivas to repeat it for you. On divestment, I suggest please keep this question for PTC, and PTC should be finalizing its results in a few days and talking to you. Do re gister on that call and let PTC answer that question, please.

Good evening. As far as that account which is to be resolved, I think we stated some time back that our petition -- our application is pending for admission in NCLT. The resoluti on process will commence once the admission is complete and once the admission is accepted at NCLT and thereafter the process under the IBC norms.

Actually, I could not understand how much money is locked there in this NCLT's case, and what are you expecting from that?

The amount that is there as far as our Stage III assets are concerned, total amount is INR 190 crores. Out of this, this single account that is pending for admission at NCLT is INR187 crores.

Ladies and gentlemen, as there are no further questions, I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Rajiv Malhotra for the closing remarks.

So thank you for joining us this afternoon. And what I would urge everyone who was with us on this call and anyone who will hear us later, what we sense is an overhang of the past. Now the only point the current management team would like to say is that the past is just what it was. If you have any specific questions, we are always happy to answer it. The less you have that overhang, the better off we are. You support us. We are here to grow value in this company. And rest assured, in the coming quarters, our numbers will speak for themselves. And thank you for listening to us patiently, and anyone has any queries, we are here to answer at any point in time. Thank you once again.

Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, on behalf of PTC India Financial Services Limited, that concludes this conference call. Thank you for joining us, and you may now disconnect your lines.