The first question is from the line of Dr. Kunal Dhamesha from Macquarie.
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The first question on the nano paclitaxel launch that we are anticipating in U.S. in the near term. Umang, how are we looking at this market, given there are other players with a 505 (b)(2) kind of product. And then with our product, how are we positioned to gain market share? And is there any technicalities regarding a channel -- a particular channel of selling? If you could highlight those aspects would be great.
Sorry, we were on mute. Bulk of the market is -- I think there are -- what we know there is 1 NDA player, and there are 2 generics. And I think one of the generics is, it will continue to -- it will expand for ANDA generics, because they are substitutable. And actually, from a reimbursement perspective, it is our belief that all -- that everybody is reimbursed like a generic. But we feel that the market is large enough for us to take meaningful share.
What would be your estimate of the total addressable market now?
No. At least -- the market was $800 million, $900 million pre generic. I think the IMS would still show it at that level, but there would be a gross to nets to bring the mark et down which typically is not very high on the institutional side of the business, unlike the retail, where the gross to nets are really high. But here, the gross to net is going to be very significant -- I mean it's going to be closer to the overall IMS reported number. Our belief is that we should play for fair market share on this product category. So I wouldn't be too surprised if our share reflects that.
Sure. That's great. And secondly, I think I missed any commentary on Advair, and then overall on the respiratory pipeline that we suggested. Could you please...?
So Advair, as we mentioned, will be commercial ized from our site in the U.S. And the product, obviously, we've taken our batches and we've gone through the regulatory process. I think the -- depending on how the U.S. prioritizes domestic site filings, we definitely see it as an FY '26 launch. The question is depending on the priority of the filings, we will probably either be launching it in the early part of the year or the later part of the year.
Sure. So we have filed an amendment to ANDA, right, and not the CBE-30?
No, no, it can't be a CBE-30 because it's from a new site. So that filing has already gone where it is filing from a new site. So it can't be a CBE-30. I think there was a recent promulgation from the U.S., which said that when you make filings from domestic facilities, right, then your files may be prioritized. So we are -- we yet to see what happens basis that at this filing.
With your permission, if I may, one more on the potential pharma tariff. Is there any update, I mean, on your side in the U.S. market, if you are getting something from your partners or distributors? Any color would be helpful there.
Actually Ashish is closer to those discussions. So maybe Ashish, you can give a view on that.
Yes. So we -- see we have not, in any way, got impacted by any -- and this is an evolving situation. We have to yet to see on what gets decided finally. But in our portfolio, we've not got impacted. And I think the most recent announcement doesn't really impact the generic players. In fact, it may just benefit. So we're yet to see this evolving situation.
Sorry to interrupt, may we request Dr. Kunal Dhamesha to please rejoin the queue. We have other participants waiting for their turn. The next question is from the line of Damayanti Kerai from HSBC.
My first question is on Lanreotide. So Umang, you mentioned you have started supplies to few markets. But if you can talk -- so rry, for Lanreotide, how should we look at the normalcy or -- normalcy coming back in the supplies for the U.S. market?
Yes. Damayanti, I think my comment in the scri pt was more about nano paclitaxel. Yes, nano paclitaxel, we've already supplied to a couple of markets and we are ready to supply to the U.S. as well. I think on Lanreotide, as I mentioned, this quarter is -- the quarter that went by, quarter 4, was significantly higher than quarter 3 and -- in terms of volume. And also this quarter, we are coming back to normalcy. I think the -- our mix of products is something that we are managing, but the product is quite significantly back into the channel.
Well, yes. I mean, remember that, that level was built as a common strategy between the NDA product and the ANDA product. And for some time, the ANDA product took over, and that was - - and now we're coming back into both the NDA and ANDA. So eventually, we will reach that level, if that answer your question.
Sure. And just a related thing, which product wi ll prefer, like the NDA 1 like the 505(b)(2) or NDA in terms of gaining market share quickly in the market?
No, I think the ANDA always gain share faster because it's just -- it's like the brand product. So -- but we are selling both right now.
Okay. And my second and last question is, if you can comment on your R&D outlook. So fourth quarter, in general, I guess, is more than what we saw in the previous quarters. It could be lumpy. But in terms of spend in, say, '26-'27, how should we look at the R&D cost? And then which are the focus segments in near term?
So I think we're generally in the range. And see, we are usually guiding to not being ever higher than 6, 6.5, right? And that's for a full year basis. Some quarters may be slightly higher than that, some may be lower, right? But overall, we never do R&D more than that because that's what our business model allows us. And quite honestly, we don't need spending more than that basis our pipeline and our portfolio. Focus areas will continue to be respiratory, will continue to be injectable s, will continue to be products in the -- products which are for India, including the GLP-1s that are going to go off patent.
The next question is from the line of Surya Narayan Patra from PhillipCapital India Private Limited.
So first question is on the margin guidance what we have given. It looks like slightly lower than last year number. So is it because the Revlimid number is likely to be lower? Or is it because Revlimid has started seeing any kind of price corr ection in the last 12-month period of the given block?
Yes, sure. So I can take that question. So it's not the impact of like we mentioned the revenue will continue to be in the growth trajectory. It's basically a mix that is likely to change. And one of the key reasons is generic Revlimid, which will go out of exclusivity towards the last quarter. So that will certainly have an impact on overall margin. And that's why we are guiding towards the margin number that we've given.
Maybe if I can just add to what Ashish said, I think in the current year, just to be in all transparency, we have possibly exceeded what we gave as a guidance range. And if you -- Ashish's commentary was about 150 basis points from where we guided is where EBITDA is higher, right? So if you were to just take the 150 basis points out, we're broadly in the same range that we had communicated as a possible guidance range for the last year.
Okay. Sir, second question is about the capex for FY '26. What is our thought process there? And for the peptide as well as in the GLP opportunity, how prepared we are? And also a last question, if I just -- since it is the final year -- I mean fourth quarter results that we are discussing, what would be the overall respiratory revenue that we would be making out of the consolidated revenue? If you can give that number, please?
Okay. So I think there are probably 3 questions in that one question. So let me start with the first one on capex. I think -- so see, if you see in the last couple of years, we've actually increased our investments on the capex side. And these are all very strategic calls that we are taking to actually -- and to increase our capacities in respiratory capacities. And so most of the capex that you see are actually -- growth capex that you see are actually oriented to increase the respiratory capacity in MDI, DPI and rescues. Other than that, we also have our capex oriented towards derisking to the outside India facilities. So we have the China facility that got capitalized recently and the product supply has started from there. And then we have both facilities in the U.S. getting r eady to start supplying MDI and DPI from there. And then you have a large maintenance capex as well, which is ongoing. So that's been our capex strategies, all oriented towards our strategic plan that we have in the future. On your second question, which was on GLP-1, okay? So I think Umang has covered in the past that we'll be ready whenever there is a first wa ve of launch that will come through. And we are looking at both in-house as well as third-party partnerships out there to make sure that we are in the first wave of launch. And your third question...
Was about the respiratory revenue share?
Yes. So it's about -- see, respiratory is one of our top strategic -- continue to be our top strategic pillar. So we continue to be 30% kind of a revenue overall that comes from the respiratory on a global level. So that's what we track very closely.
Okay. Sir, did you share any number for the capex for the next year? No?
So about 4% roughly of your -- 5% of your revenue, yes, somewhere around that would be the figure for the capex, 5% of revenue you could take.
The next question is from the line of Neha Manpuria from Bank of America.
Umang, on the India market, now that the trade generic restructuring that we were doing is behind, if I look at this year, obviously, that was impacted by seasonality. How should I think about growth? While we have mentioned higher than IPM growth, what's your overall sense on what the market growth can be, therefore, what the trade generic and branded generic growth for Cipla could be?
So I think I was just mentioning this a little earlier to someone else, the market -- overall market growth rate range of 10 to 12 has now moved to 8 to 10. And the reasons for that is that we've gone through pretty superlative new introduction movement in the market because you had everything coming off patents, dapagliflozin, empagliflozi n, right? You had sacubitril/valsartan. A lot of products went off patent and therefore, NI growth actually went up. And so therefore, you lost right -- compared to that and now you will see -- possibly 1%, 1.5% lower future growth due to the fact that the NI season, as you may call it, of expiries is gone. The second aspect is inflation us ed to be higher. So companies were given pricing adjustments, which was at inflation then. Inflation numbers are now lower, so you lose another 1% to 1.5% there. So what was a 10% to 12% range is now somewhere in the 8% to 10% range going forward for the industry. And Cipla will do better than that overall in India.
Understood. And in trade generics, we have regained all the -- whatever lower volume that we have, so it's fully back to normal?
It is fully back to normal, and the whole distribution channel now is completely internalized to Cipla.
Understood. My second question is on capital allocation. Given th e cash that we are sitting on, I know you've indicated in the past. But as you just refreshed through what your priorities are, has there been any changes in terms of where you'd look at opportunities inorganically to deploy that cash?
Ashish?
Yes. So I think, again, we see India as our growth market. And I think it always gives you a good return on capital as you invest capital in India. We've invested on people. We've been investing on capex that I talked about. And we'll also continue to look at small to large M&A opportunities out there, which can come in the form of not just companies, but product portfolio, etcetera, that we may acquire out there. I think the second opportunity that we see is always adding to the portfolio in the U.S. So we keep looking at partnerships where complex -- where we can acquire complex generic ANDAs or NDAs, which requires you to pay some sort of mi lestone upfront, but then the asset is yours and you start to commercialize those assets. I think other than that, EMEU, we look at opportunistically acquisitions out there as well. It won't be large in size, but more midsized kind of an opportunity that we'll invest in. So we have many avenues to look at from a capital allocation point of view. And you would have seen that we have also accordingly maintained the dividend that we had increased in the last 2 years.
The next question is from the line of Shashank Krishnakumar from Emkay Global.
My first one was on the partnered inhalation asset, which we had filed a few quarters back. Just wanted to check if we are on track to commercialize this asset sometime next year. And also just wanted to check which facility is this asset now filed sir?
Yes. The asset is on track for commercialization. And also the asset was originally filed from Goa. It will be commercialized from Goa. We're also creating a new filing for -- we are also supplementing the file if -- where needed by also having the option of doing this from our U.S. facility.
Got it. My second question was on the domestic business. I think we mentioned in the opening remarks that the Consumer Health business saw double-digit growth this quarter. Would it be fair to assume that the trade generic business also grew in double digits this quarter?
No, I don't think so. I think the trade generic business did not grow as much as the Consumer Health business. It did not grow double digit.
Yes. So trade generic business, if you see Y-o-Y basis, okay, so the model change that happened impacted quarter 1 of FY '25. So quarter 4 was broadly a normalized quarter of FY '24. So therefore, the Y-o-Y growth out there in trade generic is a normal growth that you would see.
The next question is from the line of Sidharth Negandhi from Chanakya Wealth Creation.
This was again on the domestic business. How are you thinking of the schedule extension that was given up to 31st December for MSMEs in context of whether that can be a tailwind for further growth on the trade generics business as well as the branded generics business? Do you see that a tailwind coming in should that implementation happen? And how are you thinking whether that is likely to happen?
No, I don't think we see that as a big driver for our growth. In fact, I think not having the ability to create more uncertainty in the market. So not -- I don't think we see that as a big headwind -- as a big tailwind for us this year.
And the second question was on what you mentioned about the recent most U.S. regulations, right? Now while it is an advantage for generics as far as the MSME is concerned, given certain parts of the portfolio at supplies, also specialty, does that most favored nation policy create any impact on that specialty part of the portfolio?
We don't have too much share of new drug spec. I think the focus of the legislation is on new drug spec as against simple 505 (b)(2)s, which are either with different salt forms or with different delivery systems, because most of those 505 (b)(2)s are reimbursement -- that's reimbursed at the same manner in which the ANDAs are reimbursed. So I think the focus of the legislation is on new drug NCs and we don't -- a new drug products, and we don't have those.
The next question is from the line of Devang Shah from Asit C Mehta Investment Limited.
Just I want to know that the way you have mentioned as far as your EBITDA guidance the -- as far as overall revenue for next FY '26, can we expect that your top line is going to go in the range of 7% to 9% kind of thing. The way you already mentioned that you are going to continue the same growth trajectory. So I'm just talking about the overall growth, will be in the same range as far as top line revenue is concerned?
Yes. So Devang, we don't give revenue guidance. And then we usually every year give EBITDA margin guidance, because our focus is on profitability to ensure that we maintain that. So that's why we continue to give the profit margin.
Okay. And my second question, the way, sir, the U.S. in which the situation somewhere right now evolving related to pharma-related aspects, can you throw some light that it is going to affect the -- our U.S. business or we do not have any kind of challenges due to that?
No. I think there are 2 things that are happening in the U.S. One is the tariffs for which right now, there are no tariffs on generic products from India, by and large, and from -- actually a lot of countries other than perhaps one odd country. So I don't think we're impacted by tariffs as yet. And we don't see the markets as being very different in the future on that. The second one is the recent executive order on pricing reductions that companies are to voluntarily take. I think that is -- generics, quite h onestly, is a beneficiary of that order because it creates a market where generic drugs would be preferred. We're not seeing this in -- we're not seeing that impacting our business at all.
The next question is from the line of Bino Pathiparampil from Elara Capital.
Umang, are we still expecting to launch Symbicort in FY '27?
'27, yes. We should be hopefully there.
Okay. And sir, there is this product Teduglutide in which you and your partner have filed a -- filed for a declaratory judgment. Could you give some details about when do you expect to launch this?
Actually, Bino, I would rather not provide, since the product is competitive. I think it's -- but if you follow the court and what the summary judgment is being -- or the details being asked for, I think, you might be able to figure it out. So yes...
Understood. Understood. Okay. And if I can put it this way, I believe the product has an orphan drug exclusivity to May 2026. So is it slightly before that or after that?
Yes. I think you're on the right track, Bino. You're on the right track. I'm not -- yes, I think you're on the right track, and it might be a little bit longer than that also -- after that also.
Got it. And finally, with Lanreotide coming back, are we looking back to getting to our peak U.S. run rate of $250 million a quarter starting next quarter or something like that?
Well, if lenalidomide stayed at where it was now, yes, we would have got there and crossed it. But you also have to see the next 2 or 3 quarters is when we will see a compression in lena. And that will be offset by these new products that are coming up. So our current guidance range is different for the overall U.S. market. We don't comment specifically by product. But as of now, we are looking at something like $220 million for the U.S. going forward in the next quarter or so.
That's right. For the next quarter, considering what we know is going to happen to lena, etcetera.
Next question is from the line of Dr. Kunal Dhamesha from Macquarie.
Just one clarification on Lanreotide. We said that by quarter 1 or the current quarter, we have enough product in the channel to reach the previous market share. Is that correct understanding?
No, I don't think we said enough product in the channel. I think we said we have resumed our supplies back. The channel, quite honestly, is quite -- does not have too much product of Cipla because we are getting back into the business. So right now, we have -- we are projecting enough supply to be able to start building towards that range.
Okay. So basically our revenue ramp up would be more or less in line with our market share ramp- up? Is that the correct way to understand?
So let me -- yes, so let me probably say that we are right now at a stage where we are beginning to produce to roughly the same levels that we used to produce when we had the market share that you have in mind. And from that -- to go through that market share, b ecause we have to keep a little bit of stock spare as well as fill the pipeline and fill the channel, it will take a little bit of time. But production is roughly coming back to the level that we used to have when you saw the market share you have in mind.
Great. Another clarification on Advair. When did we file the amendment to the U.S. FDA?
It was -- I don't think we are giving that level of guidance specifically because, again, the product -- the launch time lines can be calculated from that perspective. But I can ju st tell you that it's already into the FDA, and it's been filed.
Sure. And lastly, the 3 peptide assets that we expect to launch in FY '26, any indication as to how should we think about the size of these products with respect to the currently launched peptide products?
Ashish, you may have better color on this.
Yes. Sorry, you...
3 peptide.
Yes, yes. so I think it's -- we're not giving guidance of size, but these -- one of them is likely to be a large asset for us. And the other 2 would be smaller assets.
The next question is from the line of Anubhav from UBS.
Sorry to interrupt you, Mr. Anubhav. Can you speak a bit louder? We are unable to hear you clearly.
Yes, sure. Sure. I repeat my question. So first, is this okay? Am I audible now?
Yes, you are.
Okay. So first question is on Nilotinib, just trying to understand how big is this kind of opportunity? Is it like on revenue, roughly about $10 million, $20 million opportunity annually or this can be a $20 million, $50 million scale opportunity? Just trying to understand this.
Anubhav, we are not giving product level guidance or specifically on this, but there are multiple factors that can play out on this. And I think they are related to how soon an ANDA enters versus how soon a B2 product can exist.
And you will be launching this product when?
It's imminent. It's imminent.
And just on the U.S. sales, last year, we did $934 million. When do you expect to reach this level in, let's say, FY '27, '28, '29? When would you again reach that level, roughly?
Well, the hope will be to obviously reach at -- to reach the same level. But depending on the challenges in the market, we don't think that there's enough definitive and predictive analytic to suggest where we'll reach because there's -- lena is fairly significant, and it depends on how the lena trajectory unfolds in the U.S. But we've given you a range for next quarter. I think if you use that and add some of our new launches and take an estimate of where lena goes, you might be able to come to a conclusion.
Just one last question on the semaglutide in India market. So when you launch it, would you be pursuing both the target and the injectable versions there or only one of them?
We will be in whatever variant forms for the market. And I think it will likely to be the injectable first. And I think we'll definitely be in that. And also in -- as and when the market opens for the oral, we'll also be there in that.
The next question is from the line of Sanjay Kohli from Gold Stone Capital.
So this executive order, when does it get implemented? And it's very interesting that you said that generics will actually benefit out of it because the innovator prices are -- if it's going to really target the innovator pricing then just give some -- can you give some color on this...?
Mr. Kohli, sorry to interrupt you. Your voice is sounding very muffled, sir.
Muffled? Okay. Better now?
Just a second, let me come near the window to have a better signal. My question -- am I audible now?
Yes, please go ahead, sir.
So the question is directed about the executive order, which is proposed. How quickly do you expect this to get sort of implemented? And on a voluntary basis, could you give some color on this and how it affects pricing on generics?
Well, right now, we don't think it affects pricing on generics. We think that the executive order is probably more towards branded drugs as against generic medicines. And we believe that in the long run, generics will be a beneficiary to this.
How?
Well, look at it this way that if you -- if your overall prices are promulgated to reduce, why would branded companies be interested in spending massive amounts of promotion, etcetera, into it. And therefore, the newer -- the categories of drugs that cannot be -- they may actually move over to those drugs which are already generic but -- yes, go ahead.
So would it mean that the system is recognizing a certain inefficiency innovator and that is also likely to -- they're likely to -- something to be happening there also for lowering the cost.
I don't know. I mean look, I think right now, it's been 1 day since the orders come. They're also digesting it. Maybe we'll be in a better position to speak about it over the period of the next month. It's too recent. I wish them to review it after earnings call today. This has got a lot of questions on it, but we really don't know much about it. Sorry.
So can I get -- slip in another question, please, on the proportion of your U.S. sales, how much of it do you manufacture in the U.S. close to $1 billion?
Yes. So about 25% comes from U.S. Right now, it's mainly orals, and we'll be adding, like I said, MDI and DPI as well. And about -- roughly about 33% -- 1/3 of roughly comes from India currently. The balance we have CMOs, etcetera.
And my question was of the 29% of North American sales, what percentage of that is supplied by your facilities over there?
Yes, that's what I'm saying. So if you -- so 25% to 30%, like I said, it's 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 of U.S. sales.
Right.
So 1/3 of U.S. sales. So for the 29%, let's say, 10% will be made in U.S., right, and 10% in India and 10% is the rest of the world.
Quickly on the India piece, the 7% Y-o-Y growth, is it largely attributable to volume growth?
No, actually, it's a mix of all 3. If your question is whether the volume growth is majority in India, no, I think pricing is also there and so is new introduction. So no, I don't think it's all volume.
Okay. Just one more thing on China, the plant you said it started supplying. What does it exactly supply, to which region? Any color on that?
It's a respiratory plant. So it supplies respiratory medication and is built with the intention of supplying the China market and other markets that require that product, including the U.S., if required.
And this will include the future filings also, which you target for the U.S.?
Not really. This is only for the current filings. The future filings are going out of our sites in the U.S. and India. Yes, the China market itself is also quite big for the type of products that we will be managing.
I see. And just a double check on the Revlimid have we filed for -- sorry , not Revlimid, I mean, sema, have we filed for Canada or some Brazil market?
No, we have not.
And on the Revlimid, do you get any volume increase this year?
Yes, I think the -- if your question is, has there been a volume increase as per this, I think for us, very marginally compared to some of the other players who've had huge amounts of -- who have commented on larger volume share. For us, it's very marginal as per the agreement that we've signed with them.
The next question is from the line of Nitin Agarwal from DAM Capital.
On the Europe and emerging market business as well as South Africa, we've had a pretty strong recovering growth this year. How should we look at these markets from here on? These are the -- has something really changed in these businesses?
See, I think South Africa, there are a couple of portfolios that helped us to grow at those numbers. So 3 levers actually -- let me put 3 levers out th ere. So one is the Actor acquisition that we had made that helped us to grow out there on the OTC side primarily. Second is some opportunistic tenders that we did out there, which also helped us to grow out there. And the third is new launches that we've been doing. So our new launches share has been higher than our competition. So that has actually also helped us grow. But overall, if you look at the market, it's a 4%, 5% market -- growth market. So I think on a normalized basis, we should take 4% to 5% kind of a growth for South Africa and not necessarily the beating growth that we have done because our focus will also be on the profitability there. EMEU is a multitude of many markets. So therefore, it is difficult to give a number because there will be different growth rates in different markets. But I think we -- last year, we focused a lot on execution, which has helped us to achieve a 15% growth on USD terms. And like we've said that it has entered the growth phase. So next year also our target is to actually grow that in that market.
And secondly on the U.S. with the guidance that you put out about $220 million thereabout for Q1. Do you see a lot of the impact of lena actually getting factored probably in that number? So with some of our bigger launches coming through the year, do we see this number picking up as we go along? Or this is a number which potentially can down further depending on how lena plays out?
I think Umang has covered that question. I think we are not giving guidance right now beyond quarter 1. for U.S.
The next question is from the line of Tushar Manudhane from Motilal Oswal.
So just on the peptide assets, if you could elaborate in terms of the investment done till date as far as R&D or manufacturing is concerned? And what kind of investment sort of we are targeting over the next 2 to 3 years?
Ashish bhai?
So peptide is -- a lot of our peptide portfolio, we go outside to the CMOs. We -- like we said that we don't have injectables facility. So therefore, a lot of our investment is on the development side on peptides. And -- so there are 3, 4 broad categories of R&D expenditure that we have. Peptides is one of them, respiratory, bio is there. And then there are other complex and long-acting injectables, etcetera, that we have. So it's part of the R&D expenditure that we incur.
Got it. And one last -- in the earlier comments, you referred to some large assets probably we can be there for FY '26. So this approval, what is the -- if you could share the expected time line for the approval for this product?
No, I think there are -- we have 2, 3 products which are peptides, which we are expecting this year. Then we've got -- we've just recently been given the approval of nano paclitaxel, and there are a few others that we have in our pipeline. So we are hoping that these approvals can come in the second half of the year. And -- I mean, they will come when -- as they are approved in the first half and second half. But some of the -- you will see the full impact of a lot of these products in our second half of the year numbers.
Ladies and gentlemen, this will be the last question for today, which is from the line of Vishal from Systematix.
So basically, my question is on the inhaled insulin...
So on the inhaled insulin that you got approval for in the last quarter, just wanted to get the sense on the opportunity size. How are you going to price it versus the other injectable insulin? And largely because the asset has not done well globally so anything that you can kind of make it work in India?
Well, I think the -- obviously, on pricing, etcetera, we have an idea of where the market needs to be. I think we are working towards that. I think the launch is somewhere around -- should hopefully follow in 3 to 4 months, and we have a market plan for this. The idea of inhaled insulin is never to replace the way insulin is served in the market in India. So we don't -- by its very nature, the asset is a niche asset for people who cannot take injectable drugs or people who are hesitant to take injectable drugs. So that is the reason and the niche where it will be positioned. It's not a mass product. So I don't think the product needs to do hugely well in any market because it's not intended to do that. It's intended to serve a section of population and an unmet need for that population.
Okay. All right. So kind of any number as to like, can it be a low single-digit market share product in terms of volumes?
The overall insulin market, yes, probably that's wh ere it will end up. It's not going to be a huge market share product. But the insulin category is huge. And our research says that there is a list of people who have injectable phobia and who might actually benefit from inhaled insulin.
Right. And just a follow-up on GLP-1. Have we init iated the clinical trials on the -- for the India market?
Well, as I mentioned between -- we will be on th e day of the market creation. We are not giving specific detail on the product per se right now.
Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question for today. I would now like to hand the conference over to Ms. Diksha Maheshwari for closing comments.
Thank you, everyone, for joining in. If you have any further questions, please write it to investor.relations@cipla.com.
Thank you.
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